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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #180 on: June 20, 2006, 03:14:46 AM »
R-09 users -

Will this 4GB card work with the unit? It says it's "Ultra Speed" which I've read is not good for the R-09.

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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #181 on: June 20, 2006, 04:31:54 AM »
that's the card i'm using right now, george.  i can write/read to the card, but i can't format the filesystem with the R09 unit currently. 

once the next firmware is out and 4gb is officially supported, it should be good to go.

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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #182 on: June 20, 2006, 06:29:09 PM »
that's the card i'm using right now, george.  i can write/read to the card, but i can't format the filesystem with the R09 unit currently. 

once the next firmware is out and 4gb is officially supported, it should be good to go.
how do you format?  With a PC every time?  That seems cumbersome

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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #183 on: June 20, 2006, 07:14:39 PM »

how do you format?  With a PC every time?  That seems cumbersome


for the moment, yeah.  and certainly not ideal, i admit.  but i can accept it for now; this will change with the next firmware update!

consider a show that runs 2:10.  i'd certainly rather have 2x 2 hour sessions at my disposal on a single card, rather than having to swap cards out quickly during an encore break.

with two 120 minute sessions available on a 4gb card, it covers 99.9% of my routine recording.  festivals?  no... but there are on-the-go drives for those scenarios.


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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #184 on: June 20, 2006, 07:32:55 PM »

how do you format?  With a PC every time?  That seems cumbersome


for the moment, yeah.  and certainly not ideal, i admit.  but i can accept it for now; this will change with the next firmware update!

consider a show that runs 2:10.  i'd certainly rather have 2x 2 hour sessions at my disposal on a single card, rather than having to swap cards out quickly during an encore break.

with two 120 minute sessions available on a 4gb card, it covers 99.9% of my routine recording.  festivals?  no... but there are on-the-go drives for those scenarios.



OK.  That is what I thought.  I am glad to hear they will update the firmware to eliminate this issue.  I agree that using 1 4g is much better than 2 2g.  I am done with tape  card flipping.  Its so 20th century.

On the go drives.  Is there a way to connect r09 directly to a drive and copy files to it without a pc?

thanks for the information.

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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #185 on: June 20, 2006, 10:24:55 PM »
On the go drives.  Is there a way to connect r09 directly to a drive and copy files to it without a pc?

thanks for the information.

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I'm sure this is just one among dozens out there - but I believe this drive would transfer directly from the miniusb of the R-09.

http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=104&SpNo=2&LangNo=0

Transfers at a rate of 4mb sec - so a little over 8-minutes to transfer a 2gig card in the field. Battery lasts 1.5hr of continous copy.
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edit: Everyone's going to have their own take on it - but I think I'd rather spend the money on extra SD cards then to rely on a battery operated copy device in the field. I could just be biased due to all the laptop hard drives I throw in the can on a weekly basis at work...
 
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #186 on: June 20, 2006, 11:04:01 PM »
does this take flash cards or SD cards? if they accept SD cards, are they as cheap/easy to get as flash cards?

i briefly read about it in my bh photo magazine they always send me but dont remmeber anything about it :P

sweet if running something like schoeps actives>lemosax/vms>r-9 like you ran sleepypedro, nice and lo-pro :)

so since going analog in, it doesnt have to be bit-perfect correct? sorry i am having a barinfart and cant remmebr if that matters

what analog inputs does it accept? 1/4" ? it seems so small that seems to be the only option
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #187 on: June 20, 2006, 11:36:52 PM »
Here is what I have been using to transfer my SD cards from the R-09. 40GB drive, its very fast, got on ebay for $160 with a spare battery: http://www.smartdisk.com/eWeb/smartdiskus/www/staticpages/FlashTrax1.asp It think it runs a variety of Linux.
 I use it after I fill the 2 - 2GB cards.  Because this is much cheaper than buying 20 - 2GB cards which would be $1000.  I like it better than the USB OTG drives since it can be used for a lot more like pictures from my digital camera, and a picture viewer, and as a mp3 and wav player.  It transfers fast, about 20 mins for a full 2GB card which is around 14Mb/sec.  Transfers 3 full 2GB cards on a charge and the battery is easy to swap.  Large 3.5" screen thats nice for previewing pics.
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #188 on: June 20, 2006, 11:50:32 PM »
On the go drives.  Is there a way to connect r09 directly to a drive and copy files to it without a pc?

thanks for the information.

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I'm sure this is just one among dozens out there - but I believe this drive would transfer directly from the miniusb of the R-09.

http://www.transcendusa.com/Products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=104&SpNo=2&LangNo=0

Transfers at a rate of 4mb sec - so a little over 8-minutes to transfer a 2gig card in the field. Battery lasts 1.5hr of continous copy.
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I think you did your math wrong there, thats 4mb (bits) /sec where the card is 2GB (bytes) so it would take almost 70 minutes to copy full 2GB since there are 8 bits per byte plus some overhead.
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #189 on: June 20, 2006, 11:52:12 PM »
Here is what I have been using to transfer my SD cards from the R-09. 40GB drive, its very fast, got on ebay for $160 with a spare battery: http://www.smartdisk.com/eWeb/smartdiskus/www/staticpages/FlashTrax1.asp It think it runs a variety of Linux.
 I use it after I fill the 2 - 2GB cards.  Because this is much cheaper than buying 20 - 2GB cards which would be $1000.  I like it better than the USB OTG drives since it can be used for a lot more like pictures from my digital camera, and a picture viewer, and as a mp3 and wav player.  It transfers fast, about 20 mins for a full 2GB card which is around 14Mb/sec.  Transfers 3 full 2GB cards on a charge and the battery is easy to swap.  Large 3.5" screen thats nice for previewing pics.

20 mins for a 2GB card is kinda slow IMO, but as long as it works for you :)

i think 20 mins for a 2GB card is nowhere near 14/MB sec isnt it ??? more like 4/MB/sec isnt it ???
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/Bean420
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #190 on: June 20, 2006, 11:52:42 PM »
that is a sweet OTG drive tho, nice screen ;D
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/Bean420
http://bt.etree.org/mytorrents.php
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #191 on: June 20, 2006, 11:55:00 PM »

20 mins for a 2GB card is kinda slow IMO, but as long as it works for you :)

i think 20 mins for a 2GB card is nowhere near 14/MB sec isnt it ??? more like 4/MB/sec isnt it ???

I think you got your bits and bytes messed up too, transfer rates are in bits, the cards are Bytes.
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #192 on: June 21, 2006, 12:22:58 AM »

20 mins for a 2GB card is kinda slow IMO, but as long as it works for you :)

i think 20 mins for a 2GB card is nowhere near 14/MB sec isnt it ??? more like 4/MB/sec isnt it ???

I think you got your bits and bytes messed up too, transfer rates are in bits, the cards are Bytes.

ahh, damn, i even went to school for electronics and this is still confusing at times :)

thanks for the clarification tho :)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #193 on: June 21, 2006, 12:34:51 PM »

A co-worker of mine just showed me a photobank he just purchased on ebay for 32$ with shipping from China. Took five days to get here from China at close of ebay auction. Check it out...

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The unit is actually pretty damn solid - and the screen looks great. Just install the laptop drive of your choice and your ready to go.

Here's a link to the manufacturer.  http://www.cenda.com.cn/en/product_fd.asp?ProductID=73
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Re: Edirol R-09 release information
« Reply #194 on: June 21, 2006, 03:30:11 PM »

edit: Everyone's going to have their own take on it - but I think I'd rather spend the money on extra SD cards then to rely on a battery operated copy device in the field. I could just be biased due to all the laptop hard drives I throw in the can on a weekly basis at work...
 
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SD cards will be expensive for an all day festival another ~$500 to get 12hrs of course one is necessary.  I dont know....
you make a good point about the drive stability especially in the field where power may be more variable and the draw from the drive may not be met at times causing it to sieze over time.

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