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Re: Recommendations for Compact (Desk) Monitor Speakers
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2025, 12:55:39 PM »
Like most things, it can be as simple or as complex as you want and wish to take it. Maybe based on the real world results you are getting you might go as far down the rabbit hole as it takes, or maybe not worry about it at all.  You're the one in charge.

Part one of this video covers the some of the pitfalls typically associated with monitoring the bottom end when mixing pretty well- https://youtu.be/1xPO2Q2QHXk?si=Rq2D9paWDzMiAWho
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Re: Recommendations for Compact (Desk) Monitor Speakers
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2025, 02:36:22 PM »
Philharmonic speakers are an expensive proposition, but they are very up front about their design goals, parts, etc. which, as you said, is refreshing in today's market.

As someone who owns a pair of them (the BMRs, to be specific), and has followed a lot of the discussions that have included Dennis Murphy himself, I can assure you that for the performance they offer they are the absolute best bargain out there.  Even since he had the good sense to raise his prices a bit, his speakers are still a steal.  While in absolute terms more than $1k can feel like a lot for speakers, compared to what else is in the price range of the various Philharmonic models nothing can even come close to them.
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Re: Recommendations for Compact (Desk) Monitor Speakers
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2025, 02:43:44 PM »
Check out the Kali Audio LP-UNF:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LP-UNF--kali-audio-lp-unf-ultra-nearfield-monitor-system-black-pair

+1 on this recommendation. I own the Kali IN-5 and love them, though they are not at all "desktop" sized. Here's a very detailed review of the UNF:
https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/kali_lp_unf/

I also have the IN-5 monitors and I've used them on a desktop with angled foam pads to aim them at my dumb head.  They're not bad speakers, but I haven't been blown away by them either.  At one point I had the WS-12 sub to go with them, but I ended up selling that.
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Re: Recommendations for Compact (Desk) Monitor Speakers
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2025, 06:12:30 PM »
Check out the Kali Audio LP-UNF:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LP-UNF--kali-audio-lp-unf-ultra-nearfield-monitor-system-black-pair

+1 on this recommendation. I own the Kali IN-5 and love them, though they are not at all "desktop" sized. Here's a very detailed review of the UNF:
https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/kali_lp_unf/

I also have the IN-5 monitors and I've used them on a desktop with angled foam pads to aim them at my dumb head.  They're not bad speakers, but I haven't been blown away by them either.  At one point I had the WS-12 sub to go with them, but I ended up selling that.

They really need stands. Also, after doing a full measurement with REW and generating correction curves, they sound phenomenal. When I toggle the generated correction on and off, they are muddy-sounding when uncorrected.

If you are anyone else is curious, I recommend these stands. They are extremely solid yet adjust over a wide vertical range.
https://www.cotytech.com/speaker-stand-for-large-size-height-adjustable-sp-os10

For measurement and correction, I generally followed Julian Krause's guide, including his house curve. One significant thing I do differently than him is to set the speaker type to "full range" since the Kali's can dig pretty deep. I generated multiple curves with different corner frequencies for roll-off, and the Full Range profile absolutely sounded the best. I also ran the measurement at the highest sample rate offered by my interface.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev1bSSL8tRA

If you generate multiple correction files and want an easy way to switch between them, this tray app is great:
https://github.com/psidex/EACS

I used this measurement mic since I already have a good audio interface:
https://www.daytonaudio.com/product/911/emm-6-electret-measurement-microphone
 
Or you can go with the ever-popular Umik-1 USB mic:
https://www.minidsp.com/products/acoustic-measurement/umik-1

Both of these mics are also available with additional calibration from Cross-Spectrum:
https://www.cross-spectrum.com/measurement/calibrated_dayton.html
https://cross-spectrum.com/measurement/calibrated_umik.html

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Re: Recommendations for Compact (Desk) Monitor Speakers
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2025, 04:42:45 PM »
Bass traps require dissimilar materials, wood, foam, fiberglass, corrugated, etc. to diffuse the sonic pressure.
It is a lot of work and time to get that tuned right to the room and a given source.

If you stay above 80Hz, you avoid that,... just HPF your mastering.
Very few can reproduce it at home or through ear pods anyhow.

GC is on-point, listen before you buy.
It is your hearing that is important.

I do not EQ to flat, although start there.
I rarely use loudness at all.

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Many people have said that they love it, and it will likely win awards.
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