Topic: 1st time user Sony M10 - trouble record to the micro card

[photoleon]

Morning,

I just received a Sony M10 from a trusted taper friend.  I'm using it with a pair of Schoeps MK4's & custom pre amp/cables.  I'm having trouble getting the deck to record to the micro card.  It records fine to the deck itself.  Can anyone offer any assistance??

I have set the memory source to the memory card, but that command is over-written each time I hit record. The recording goes to the decks memory.  I'm using a new, standard SD micro card (16bit), that was automatically read by the deck, so I'm assuming it doesn't need to be reformatted.  That said, when I check to see if I could reformat it anyway, the prompts that the manual describes re formatting are not there for me to select.  Leading me to assume the SD card is properly formatted. 

I'm scheduled to record two shows this weekend & am in need of some assistance.

Please, if anyone can offer help, I'd be grateful!

Thanks in advance,

Joe.

[dallman]

Hard to say exactly, but the M10 deck will let you format as many times as you want, so not seeing that option leads me to believe the deck is not properly seeing the card. The M10 is somewhat notorious with being finicky on card insertion. I have one but do not use it enough to be an authority. I think seeing the card is your issue, but maybe someone with more M10 hands on will be better able to suggest something. I would try removing and carefully reinserting.

[aaronji]

^ That's a good suggestion. It is actually possible to get a card inserted upside down...

[papabliss]

Google returned a hit but it was about the same issue on a Sony camera. It said to make sure the battery was fully charged, a low battery would cause the format option on the menu to be greyed out.

[beatkilla]

The M10  accepts micro sd and sony memory stick(or something similar) 

One gets inserted one way and the other upside down.

Eject the card and study the tray insertion guide and reinsert it.

The M10 card tray is finicky but once you have it in its solid.

Any you DO need to format it in the M10.

[jb63]

just stopped by to say ^^^ THIS! ^^^

[commongrounder]

I have two PCM-M10s. The micro-SD card must be inserted so the contacts face UP (the top surface of recorder), and the label side of the card faces DOWN (the bottom surface of the card). Being a duo-card slot does allow for a sloppy feel to card insertion, and an SD card can be persuaded to go in to the Sony Memory Stick position, but it obviously won’t work. Also, you must format the card in the machine before recording to set up the file structure needed by the machine to record.

[Niels]

MicroSD cards have come a long way since the introduction of the M10.
microSD (up to 2GB), microSDHC (2GB to 32GB), microSDXC (32GB to 2TB).
Make sure you use a type the M10 supports.

[morst]

I have two PCM-M10s. The micro-SD card must be inserted so the contacts face UP (the top surface of recorder), and the label side of the card faces DOWN (the bottom surface of the card). Being a duo-card slot does allow for a sloppy feel to card insertion, and an SD card can be persuaded to go in to the Sony Memory Stick position, but it obviously won’t work. Also, you must format the card in the machine before recording to set up the file structure needed by the machine to record.

There is a printed legend on the back of the machine, near the card slot, showing which way to orient the notches on the two types of cards (sony or MicroSD)


Here is a not-very-helpful page from Sony regarding card compatibility for the M10 and a couple of voice recorders from the same era
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/S1F0594

[papabliss]

Morning,

I'm scheduled to record two shows this weekend & am in need of some assistance.

Please, if anyone can offer help, I'd be grateful!

Thanks in advance,

Joe.

The weekend is upon us. I'm curious to hear if you got the issue resolved and what resolved it.

[Ozpeter]

As I recall it the M10 tends to lose settings if not kept powered.  As in, if no batteries are fitted or charged.  Dunno whether that's relevant at all.

[rigpimp]

If this is my old deck it sounds like when plugged into the computer it showed up as the M10 and a Tascam. ??

My guess is one of two things:

1) The micro SD was taken out and run in another deck which formatted it, or
2) Some pulled the card out and reformatted it in some fashion.

If your M10 CANNOT see that 64GB card at all there is a hack.

That deck is only made to be used with a 32GB card (max) but I had the card specially formatted to run in that deck.

If I am correct them take the card out and follow this post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sony-pcm-m10-as-portable-player.456327/page-9#post-8727898

[checht]

The M10s internal 4GB ought to go about 4 hours at 1+/48, why not just fall back to that and sort it when there isn't time pressure?

[illconditioned]

Purchased 64G cards did not work out of the box.  The unit refused to recognize the card. I stayed with 32G cards fo this reason.
I just checked again.  If I format a *single* FAT32 partition (on another machine) it works. It shows 98hrs of recording time.
Out of the box SD cards seem to have a small partition at the beginning and a main partition after that.  Erasing and formatting as a single FAT partition fixes this.
This is my experience with Linux. Don't use Windows or Mac...