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Best Onstage Stand
« on: December 16, 2008, 05:57:40 PM »
Picked it up on Ebay for $20.49 shipped. I like it b/c it extends one extra section beyond most small backlight stands, has a tiny footprint, and utilizes quick locks.

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Material -Aluminum alloy
Stud - Standard 5/8"
Tip - 1/4" screw
Maximum height - 42 inches
Minimum height - 16 inches
Weight - 1.75 lbs
Collapsed - 13 inches

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 06:18:22 PM »
Would you mind measuring the footprint?  I've found space on stage is often at a premium, and the smaller the footprint the better.  My experience is that most of the inexpensive regular height stands (6' - 10') have a significantly larger footprint than their somewhat more expensive brand-name counterparts (e.g. Bogen).  But perhaps this isn't the case with much smaller stands like this one.
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 06:31:20 PM »
re: footprint....I simply rise the adjustable sliding section to pull the feet in and reinforce with tape at the tips if needed. 
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 06:34:27 PM »
Would you mind measuring the footprint?  I've found space on stage is often at a premium, and the smaller the footprint the better.  My experience is that most of the inexpensive regular height stands (6' - 10') have a significantly larger footprint than their somewhat more expensive brand-name counterparts (e.g. Bogen).  But perhaps this isn't the case with much smaller stands like this one.

imagine a triangle with the legs on each point. from point to point it is 14"

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 06:43:55 PM »
i think the superclamp/flex arm is the way to go onstage (assuming there is a lip for the clamp to grab on to)...


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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 07:04:36 PM »
i think the superclamp/flex arm is the way to go onstage (assuming there is a lip for the clamp to grab on to)...




that is Lip of Stage not On Stage. I have a clamp setup for that. Actually I prefer the Bogen large C Clamp with rapid release + Bogen Extension arm or + Boom Arm that can be angled and stretched further in than a flex arm. I like the flex arm too, but not for Lip of Stage.
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2008, 07:13:32 PM »
yeah i guess, but 90/100, for our purposes (not mic'g a band), they are one and the same...

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2008, 07:17:01 PM »
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imagine a triangle with the legs on each point. from point to point it is 14"

I find that a strangely intelligent way to describe the footprint dimensions! Thanks!
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 10:14:20 AM »
a bunch of us all ordered these things a while back and got them for .99 cents with about 12 dollars shipping. when roma photo put them on ebay before they put so many that you could wait till the last second and be the first bidder. i have used mine alot for gefgt

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2008, 10:40:13 AM »
^^what he said!  I got mine for under $15 and have used it more than my big stand.  Best little stand ever.
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2008, 11:10:57 AM »
That looks like a great little stage stand.

I use a Bogen 012B-

Maximum Height 33.5 inches
Minimum Height 3.54 inches
Maximum Load Capacity 7 lbs
Closed Length 19 inches
Weight 3 lbs
Footprint Diameter 23.7 inches
Mounting Stud 5/8" Reversible with 3/8 & 1/4 x 20 Threads.

One cool aspect of this one is that the legs and telescopic pole are separate parts so I can use the pole alone as an extension arm with a superclamp or use the legs alone for a very low ~4" stand. The legs swivel flat for very compact storage but are steel so they are a bit heavier than aluminum. They have a female socket and camp screw that will accept a superclamp style brass stud or my DIY vert bar shown below-




For me the versatility is key.  But it does cost a bit more. The Bogen is around $35, but I've seen an cheaper copy (Impact brand?) for around $25+
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2008, 12:08:01 PM »
42 inches isn't high enough at all.  You all sure run awfully low onstage.  4 feet is usually my limit.  I'll stick with my 3373.   8)

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2008, 12:41:08 PM »
Nice Louie! looks nice and light, good for your rig but i need the extra weight for the 414's.
 
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2008, 12:51:58 PM »
Ted, I think it might actually work for you b/c you can spread the legs out and add stability. My whole problem with the weighted stand is that is someone barely bumps into it, it will topple over.

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2008, 12:59:20 PM »
Nice Louie! looks nice and light, good for your rig but i need the extra weight for the 414's.

FWIW, no extra weight needed for the 414s (or other LDs) if clamped directly to a lightweight stand, like this:



I went to this clamp method when using my 414s with a Bogen 3373, since the other options always pushed the mics away from the stand's vertical axis and made things a little unstable.  $0.02
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2008, 01:00:42 PM »
Nice Louie! looks nice and light, good for your rig but i need the extra weight for the 414's.

Ted, Is that thing screwed down or somethin'?  I can't imagine just the weighted foot is keeping that upright.

Can you figure anyway to re-position the clamp that will get the mics closer to the stand pole?  One of the reasons I fab'ed that vert bar for my TLs was to get the mics closer to the center line of the stand and make it much less tip prone vs using Windtec C clamps [edit- like most people position them, not like Brian has done with the photo he posted, see how the clamp body is mostly behind the stand with the mics in close?].  Not a big deal down low on this stand, but certainly helps when up at 8'.

Brian posted while I was typing and may have suggested the same thing..

[edit after seeing Brian's photo]
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2008, 01:08:14 PM »
Nice Louie! looks nice and light, good for your rig but i need the extra weight for the 414's.

FWIW, no extra weight needed for the 414s (or other LDs) if clamped directly to a lightweight stand, like this:



I went to this clamp method when using my 414s with a Bogen 3373, since the other options always pushed the mics away from the stand's vertical axis and made things a little unstable.  $0.02
I used the same method w/ my TL's extended 9' and 4' stage lip ;)
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2008, 01:14:56 PM »
Louie, excellent point, well taken.

Brian, excellent point as well.  My design works well when you have multiple mics on the stand.  Those 414's take up alot of realestate!
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2008, 02:46:00 PM »
42 inches isn't high enough at all.  You all sure run awfully low onstage.  4 feet is usually my limit.  I'll stick with my 3373.   8)

I personally think 4' is too high, and could be to intrusive to the artist...~2' to 30" is ideal...
2' to 30" is plenty of height to pick up all the onstage sounds, plus mix sbd for vocals...

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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2008, 05:01:44 PM »
42 inches isn't high enough at all.  You all sure run awfully low onstage.  4 feet is usually my limit.  I'll stick with my 3373.   8)

I personally think 4' is too high, and could be to intrusive to the artist...~2' to 30" is ideal...
2' to 30" is plenty of height to pick up all the onstage sounds, plus mix sbd for vocals...



i use the bogen 3373 also, 3>4' is ideal imo...


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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2008, 05:27:14 PM »

42 inches isn't high enough at all.  You all sure run awfully low onstage.  4 feet is usually my limit.  I'll stick with my 3373.   8)

i use the bogen 3373 also, 3>4' is ideal imo..


That bogen does look attractive since collapsed its damn near 20" but can get higher than 6 feet. How sturdy do you find it?
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Re: Best Onstage Stand
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2008, 06:18:59 PM »

42 inches isn't high enough at all.  You all sure run awfully low onstage.  4 feet is usually my limit.  I'll stick with my 3373.   8)

i use the bogen 3373 also, 3>4' is ideal imo..


That bogen does look attractive since collapsed its damn near 20" but can get higher than 6 feet. How sturdy do you find it?

when the foot print is completely expanded its quite sturdy imo. great for low pro FOB action and maxes out around 7ft. i also have another bogen (model # escapes me now) that maxes out at 4ft and is great for onstage when there isnt much room or sight lines are an issue.

 

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