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Title: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: chinariderstl on March 18, 2012, 07:23:29 AM
Note: If this is in the wrong forum, please move it accordingly.

I know this might create a torrent of activity, and it's likely been posted and discussed before, but what are your favorite recordings?

I know this is an almost impossible task, as there are dozens of recordings I've forgotten and haven't listened to in ages, but can you name a few?  A few that stick out in my mind, mainly cause I've recently listened to them, are the following:

Jeff Tweedy Letters to Santa Benefit Living Room Concert April 8, 2006 (jtweedy2006-04-08.matrix.flacf)
My Morning Jacket Live at The Great Plaza at Penn's Landing on 2010-08-29 (mmj2010-08-29.m260.flac16)
Stealin Strings Live at Mitchell Park Domes on 2009-02-26 (SS2009-02-26.BSC1_K3)

I give kudos to the recorders, reminds me why I'm doing what I'm doing. (or trying to do)

Notes: (1) The Tweedy show is so intimate it is almost uncomfortable. (2) The MMJ show is the single greatest audience recording I've heard.  I heard that and decided I needed some Telefunken's yesterday! (3) The Stealin' Strings show makes me want a pair of Busman BSC1's something fierce! (4) The Tweedy show is on my site at edookie.com/downloads/tunes), the others are on the LMA.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: ashevillain on March 18, 2012, 12:33:52 PM
Some that come to mind:

Phish - 8-14,15-1998 - Lemonwheel - B&K 4006
Phish - 12-30,31-1999 - Big Cypress - FOB Neumann U89
Phish - 8-2,3-2003 - IT - AT4051a (especially the Tower Jam set)
My Morning Jacket - 6-18-2008 - Bonnaroo - Neumann AK40

There are a few others that I don't know of the exact date/source off the top of my head. Lots of Bonnaroo sets (Jack Johnson, Pearl Jam, David Byrne, Sigur Ros, Superjam with Ben Harper, JPJ and ?uestlove). Almost all of my favorite recordings are outdoor festival sets.

I rarely download and listen to recordings by other tapers. Even rarer than that will someone else's recording make it into my permanent collection. Most of my favorites are my own recordings which I'm not going to fluff here.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Chilly Brioschi on March 18, 2012, 12:42:31 PM
Some that come to mind:

Phish - 8-14,15-1998 - Lemonwheel - B&K 4006
Phish - 12-30,31-1999 - Big Cypress - FOB Neumann U89
Phish - 8-2,3-2003 - IT - AT4051a (especially the Tower Jam set)
My Morning Jacket - 6-18-2008 - Bonnaroo - Neumann AK40

There are a few others that I don't know of the exact date/source off the top of my head. Lots of Bonnaroo sets (Jack Johnson, Pearl Jam, David Byrne, Sigur Ros, Superjam with Ben Harper, JPJ and ?uestlove). Almost all of my favorite recordings are outdoor festival sets.

I rarely download and listen to recordings by other tapers. Even rarer than that will someone else's recording make it into my permanent collection. Most of my favorites are my own recordings which I'm not going to fluff here.

It's OK to tell us when you felt very satisfied with your efforts. It isn't bragging.
Especially when you help us to understand what you did right to get the results.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: ashevillain on March 18, 2012, 05:04:47 PM
;) Good point, but it's not that I'm not wanting to brag it's just that I'm not sure if I would nominate any of my recordings as "best ever." I've recorded hundreds of shows and probably less than 1% of them are really even worth a listen at all IMO.

Here's one that I do like: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=524171
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: acidjack on March 18, 2012, 06:09:52 PM
I forget the date, but yltfan did a Sigur Ros recording in PDX that was fucking incredible.
I felt compelled to send him a PM compliment it was so good.

Feel free to remind us of the date if you read this, Chris :). Don't have the show info where I am.

I like a lot of my own, too, of course.  Like this http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=7910 A matrix is always sort of "cheating" I guess but I loved the nice dry sound I got from the 41s in this somewhat bad sounding room.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: scb on March 21, 2012, 09:22:12 AM
onstage kimock
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: slightlys on March 21, 2012, 09:58:02 AM
Todd R's recording of Phil Lesh and Friends from 02-18-2012 with the Milab VM-44 links sounds fantastic! IMHO. That one is just fresh in my mind.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=552925
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: bhadella on March 21, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
onstage kimock

Agreed! 

My favorite tapes fall into three categories:

1) onstage with instumental bands
2) smaller outdoor venues with attentive FOH engineers
3) way FOB at huge open air festivals

I'd add Charlie Hunter, JIM WEIDER'S ProJECT PERCoLAToR, New Mastersounds, Garaj Mahal/Fareed Haque,  and Jeff Coffin Mu'tet as other bands that lend themselves to great onstage tapes. 




Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: tedyun on March 21, 2012, 03:25:52 PM
Because I still consider myself a novice (clocking in about 5-6 years at this now) I would say that most of the recordings I've made so far, after repeated listening, I will find some flaw with the recording/mastering process, so I would never nominate them for a "best ever" list.

However, I did a matrix recently, under the guidance of easyjim, that I have to say still blows me away. This is probably the best I've done, and I am pretty proud of this one.

I think it was the combination of the high end being supplied by the SBD, and the bottom end and instrument separation supplied by the omnis that made for a magic combo, like a lock and key. It was just something about the way Particle was mixed combined with the omnis. Even the matrix of the opening band using the same mastering settings doesn't sound as good.

I am going to go for a matrix again at this venue with Greensky Bluegrass at the end of Apr. I hope Jim can come out and recreate the special sauce!

http://www.archive.org/details/particle2011-12-17.matrix.flac16
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: yltfan on March 21, 2012, 03:43:13 PM
I forget the date, but yltfan did a Sigur Ros recording in PDX that was fucking incredible.
I felt compelled to send him a PM compliment it was so good.

Feel free to remind us of the date if you read this, Chris :). Don't have the show info where I am.


2008-10-06
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=219752
Thanks for the fluffage, but as you say, matrix is kind of cheating.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: rowjimmytour on March 21, 2012, 03:44:30 PM
Because I still consider myself a novice (clocking in about 5-6 years at this now) I would say that most of the recordings I've made so far, after repeated listening, I will find some flaw with the recording/mastering process, so I would never nominate them for a "best ever" list.

However, I did a matrix recently, under the guidance of easyjim, that I have to say still blows me away. This is probably the best I've done, and I am pretty proud of this one.

I think it was the combination of the high end being supplied by the SBD, and the bottom end and instrument separation supplied by the omnis that made for a magic combo, like a lock and key. It was just something about the way Particle was mixed combined with the omnis. Even the matrix of the opening band using the same mastering settings doesn't sound as good.

I am going to go for a matrix again at this venue with Greensky Bluegrass at the end of Apr. I hope Jim can come out and recreate the special sauce!

http://www.archive.org/details/particle2011-12-17.matrix.flac16
Easyjim is the go to guy for all your four channel recordings and was a huge help when I got my R4  :coolguy: He was super patient w/ all my ?'s and knows a sh*t load of stuff for mastering a matrix :cheers:
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Corporate hack on March 21, 2012, 07:13:24 PM
onstage kimock
all those would be better if it wasn't kimock :). *yawn*
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Fried Chicken Boy on March 21, 2012, 07:30:44 PM
I like a lot of my own, too, of course.  Like this http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=7910 A matrix is always sort of "cheating" I guess but I loved the nice dry sound I got from the 41s in this somewhat bad sounding room.

Man, that was an awesome Sebadoh show!
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: tedyun on March 21, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
easyjim is one of the nicest guys I've met, and he's like an encyclopedia of taping, especially around the venues here in San Diego. If I've never been to a particular venue, I just shoot him an email, and he'll tell me the best spot to set up. He's semi-retired now, but hopefully he'll emerge soon.

I didn't mean to fluff my recording either. That show is not without its flaws, especially that extremely wasted dude who was screaming things at the band. Unfortunately, he was right under the left mic, so I picked up all his drunken bellowing.



Because I still consider myself a novice (clocking in about 5-6 years at this now) I would say that most of the recordings I've made so far, after repeated listening, I will find some flaw with the recording/mastering process, so I would never nominate them for a "best ever" list.

However, I did a matrix recently, under the guidance of easyjim, that I have to say still blows me away. This is probably the best I've done, and I am pretty proud of this one.

I think it was the combination of the high end being supplied by the SBD, and the bottom end and instrument separation supplied by the omnis that made for a magic combo, like a lock and key. It was just something about the way Particle was mixed combined with the omnis. Even the matrix of the opening band using the same mastering settings doesn't sound as good.

I am going to go for a matrix again at this venue with Greensky Bluegrass at the end of Apr. I hope Jim can come out and recreate the special sauce!

http://www.archive.org/details/particle2011-12-17.matrix.flac16
Easyjim is the go to guy for all your four channel recordings and was a huge help when I got my R4  :coolguy: He was super patient w/ all my ?'s and knows a sh*t load of stuff for mastering a matrix :cheers:
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Jhurlbs81 on March 22, 2012, 06:04:12 PM
(2) The MMJ show is the single greatest audience recording I've heard.

thanks man! It's all about the location.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: ArchivalAudio on March 28, 2012, 12:25:45 AM
best Aud?
or best Matrix?
or best SBD?

not necessarily the best Aud, but a stellar recording from way FOB
as Bob Menke and Louis Falanga
usually did!

one of the nicest sounding vintage aud's out there....


MOTB Release: 0069 16/44.1
Release Date: 2008-05-05
Band: Grateful Dead
Date: 1975-09-28 (Sunday)
Venue: Lindley Meadows - Golden Gate Park
Location: San Francisco, CA
Analog Audience Source: FOB Master Cassettes (MAC)
Medium Stock Brands: MAC = 2 x Maxell UD 120
Analog Lineage: 2 x Sony ECM-270 => Sony TC-152 >> MAC
Analog Sound Preservation: MAC >> Nakamichi DR-8 => Korg MR-1000 >> DSF [1-bit 5.6448 MHz Stereo] >> Korg MR-1000 => Korg AudioGate >> WAV [24/96]
Taped By: Bob Menke and Louis Falanga
Transfer By: Bob Menke
Mastering By: Derek McCabe



also the matrix is wonderful to listen to!

Grateful Dead
Lindley Meadows, Golden Gate Park
San Francisco, CA
September 28, 1975

Jerry Garcia - Lead Guitar, Vocals
Donna Jean Godchaux - Vocals
Keith Godchaux - Keyboards
Mickey Hart - Drums
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Phil Lesh - Electric Bass, Vocals
Bob Weir - Rhythm Guitar, Vocals



*Matrix*

----------------------------------------------------
SBD (shnid=22257):

Bertha Remaster of the master reel source.

SBD>>MR>>DAT>>CDA>>WAV(EAC)>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA/SHN - Sound A

Digitally remastered using a custom built, Dual-DAW, nicknamed Bertha, by jashley@deadacated.com on February 6, 2004.

----------------------------------------------------
AUD (shnid=91769):

MOTB Release: 0069 16/44.1
Release Date: 2008-05-05
Band: Grateful Dead
Date: 1975-09-28 (Sunday)
Venue: Lindley Meadows - Golden Gate Park
Location: San Francisco, CA
Analog Audience Source: FOB Master Cassettes (MAC)
Medium Stock Brands: MAC = 2 x Maxell UD 120
Analog Lineage: 2 x Sony ECM-270 => Sony TC-152 >> MAC
Analog Sound Preservation: MAC >> Nakamichi DR-8 => Korg MR-1000 >> DSF [1-bit 5.6448 MHz Stereo] >> Korg MR-1000 => Korg AudioGate >> WAV [24/96]
Taped By: Bob Menke and Louis Falanga
Transfer By: Bob Menke
Mastering By: Derek McCabe

---------------------------------------------------
Thank you to Jay Ashley for the SBD transfer,
to Bob Menke and Louis Falanga for recording the show,
and to Bob Menke and Derek McCabe for the AUD transfer.

Matrix by Hunter Seamons using Final Cut Pro (SHN & FLAC>AIFF>Final Cut>WAV>FLAC16) 
October 24, 2009
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Jhurlbs81 on March 28, 2012, 07:06:49 PM
http://archive.org/details/gd1975-09-28.fob.menke-falanga.motb-0069.91769.flac16 (http://archive.org/details/gd1975-09-28.fob.menke-falanga.motb-0069.91769.flac16)

That is a good one!
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Fried Chicken Boy on March 28, 2012, 09:38:31 PM
^^ That recording is pretty amazing, especially considering the vintage and equipment.

I've been partial to these two audience recordings lately.  The fact that they both use the same mics didn't go unnoticed.

http://www.archive.org/details/ryanadams2007-10-19.flac16 (http://www.archive.org/details/ryanadams2007-10-19.flac16)

http://www.archive.org/details/dbt2010-07-23 (http://www.archive.org/details/dbt2010-07-23)
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: acidjack on March 30, 2012, 10:33:22 AM
Quote
(2) The MMJ show is the single greatest audience recording I've heard.

There is some MMJ AUD done with Schoeps tubes that I think I could quality. I think it's one of taylorc's but I could be wrong....
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: page on March 30, 2012, 10:49:36 AM
My favorite tapes fall into three categories:

1) onstage with instumental bands
2) smaller outdoor venues with attentive FOH engineers
3) way FOB at huge open air festivals

I agree with all of this.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Gutbucket on March 30, 2012, 12:22:39 PM
My favorite tapes fall into three categories:

1) onstage with instumental bands
2) smaller outdoor venues with attentive FOH engineers
3) way FOB at huge open air festivals

I agree with all of this.

x2

& quite pleased to have had the recording opportunity of #2 last night and #1 last weekend.

I'll add another-
4) rooms designed specificaly for great sounding acoustics, which also often tend to have attentive audiences.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Brian E. on March 30, 2012, 02:14:05 PM
(http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif)

I'm just here to see if any of mine make the cut  >:D
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: frostdotcom on April 27, 2012, 09:31:20 PM
One of the finest recordings of all time is 2/22/72 Bonnie Raitt from sigma sound in philly.  Its a live recording in studio with studio audience.  Im not even a bonnie raitt fan in the least until I heard this.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: OOK on April 27, 2012, 10:09:35 PM
onstage kimock

KVHW 9-9-99 Crystal Ballroom, Portland Or.............................Bar None!! the best....its everything a concert should be..... >:D
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: lastubbe on April 27, 2012, 10:37:58 PM
My favorite tapes fall into three categories:

3) way FOB at huge open air festivals

Particularly agree with this.  The big open sound is something I absolutely love.

SBIX was a good example of this.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: twatts (pants are so over-rated...) on April 28, 2012, 12:52:00 AM
My favorite tapes fall into three categories:

3) way FOB at huge open air festivals

Particularly agree with this.  The big open sound is something I absolutely love.

SBIX was a good example of this.

There was a MMW Bonnaroo ADK TL M/S Source I fell in love with quite a few years ago...  Fantastic...

Terry
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: One Cylinder on May 02, 2012, 04:31:13 AM
onstage kimock

........ I concur.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: yltfan on May 02, 2012, 08:00:46 PM
onstage kimock

KVHW 9-9-99 Crystal Ballroom, Portland Or.............................Bar None!! the best....its everything a concert should be..... >:D

Onstage, I can understand, but it's still surprising to see anything from the Crystal Ballroom on this thread, as it's such a bad sounding room.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Sebastian on May 03, 2012, 05:50:07 AM
My first ever Wilco recording came out excellent:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=507039

There's also a Dreden Dolls recording I made that they even had up on their official web site for a while:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=500016&hit=1

Another excellent recording (and concert) is this:
http://archive.org/details/ryanadams2006-10-17.sbd.flac24
However, I guess a SBD is cheating ;)
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: OOK on May 03, 2012, 05:37:10 PM
onstage kimock
KVHW 9-9-99 Crystal Ballroom, Portland Or.............................Bar None!! the best....its everything a concert should be..... >:D
Onstage, I can understand, but it's still surprising to see anything from the Crystal Ballroom on this thread, as it's such a bad sounding room.

One listen to this show and you will understand why.....

http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Gil on May 03, 2012, 05:43:34 PM
onstage kimock
KVHW 9-9-99 Crystal Ballroom, Portland Or.............................Bar None!! the best....its everything a concert should be..... >:D
Onstage, I can understand, but it's still surprising to see anything from the Crystal Ballroom on this thread, as it's such a bad sounding room.

One listen to this show and you will understand why.....

http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf

Was Terry Haggerty still playing with them at this point?
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: mr qpl on May 03, 2012, 06:23:37 PM
Fantomas 11/ 28/00 Shibuya, Tokyo Club Cyclone, still one of the best recordings I've ever heard......
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: OOK on May 03, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Was Terry Haggerty still playing with them at this point?

Nope Alan Hertz....  still a fine dam good drummer....
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: The Other Chris on May 03, 2012, 07:07:53 PM
onstage kimock
KVHW 9-9-99 Crystal Ballroom, Portland Or.............................Bar None!! the best....its everything a concert should be..... >:D
Onstage, I can understand, but it's still surprising to see anything from the Crystal Ballroom on this thread, as it's such a bad sounding room.

One listen to this show and you will understand why.....

http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf (http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf)

Amen.  My jaw hit the floor a few times that night.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: justink on May 04, 2012, 03:25:34 AM
Alex Coluzzi's recording of Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds 1999-03-13 AND 1999-03-14

that and Scott Brown's Dave and Tim Boone recording.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Gil on May 04, 2012, 09:32:50 AM
Was Terry Haggerty still playing with them at this point?

Nope Alan Hertz....  still a fine dam good drummer....

Well, Terry plays guitar . . .  ;D

Hertz is one of those rare drummers who makes me go hmmm.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: Brian E. on May 04, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
Alex Coluzzi's recording of Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds 1999-03-13 AND 1999-03-14

that and Scott Brown's Dave and Tim Boone recording.

great recordings

Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: acidjack on May 04, 2012, 11:15:54 AM
onstage kimock
KVHW 9-9-99 Crystal Ballroom, Portland Or.............................Bar None!! the best....its everything a concert should be..... >:D
Onstage, I can understand, but it's still surprising to see anything from the Crystal Ballroom on this thread, as it's such a bad sounding room.

Holy shit.  No kidding... that recording is amazing.
One listen to this show and you will understand why.....

http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf (http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf)

Amen.  My jaw hit the floor a few times that night.
Title: Re: Best Recordings Ever? (or ones that you've heard recently)
Post by: lastubbe on May 04, 2012, 05:54:03 PM
One listen to this show and you will understand why.....

http://archive.org/details/kvhw1999-09-09.km143.flacf

Thanks for this link.  Bookmarked to download later and add to the collection.  Sounds great.

Why I love aud's.