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cd tracking program for MAC
« on: May 30, 2004, 11:38:02 PM »
Trying to help out a MAC users friend of mine.  What is a good (preferably freeware) program to use for tracking cds?  I use cdwav on my pc but it doesn't run on MAC.

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2004, 12:25:45 AM »
SoundStudio ( http://www.felttipsoftware.com )
Audacity ( http://audacity.sourceforge.net )

I'm sure there are others, but those are the cheapest ($50 and free, respectively)
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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2004, 12:47:47 AM »
Thanks John +T

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2004, 09:28:21 AM »
I'm playing around with the PC version of Audacity.  From what I can tell you can't create cue sheets with this program.  Idealy I would like to be able to use cue sheets rather than splitting the wav file.

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2004, 10:59:06 AM »
I dunno any programs that create cue sheets.  
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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2004, 01:11:27 PM »
I dunno any programs that create cue sheets.  

John, Can you recommend a windows emulation program for Mac?  I can create cue sheets with Cd Wave if I can get it to run on a Mac.

Acording to the Cdwave website it will run on a program called virtual Pc aparently this is now a MS product which costs $130.
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~mjmlooijmans/cdwave/faq.html#Mac

Is there a cheaper alternative?

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2004, 06:42:33 PM »
Slight thread hijack but with an eye towards helping ya out, Joe...

Are there any Mac burning programs that use cue sheets? I wonder if shntool can somehow output cue sheets that are usable...or if xACT could have a feature added that makes them. If there are Mac programs that do, it might be possible to convince Scott to build that feature into xACT...

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2004, 07:49:41 PM »
Slight thread hijack but with an eye towards helping ya out, Joe...

Are there any Mac burning programs that use cue sheets? I wonder if shntool can somehow output cue sheets that are usable...or if xACT could have a feature added that makes them. If there are Mac programs that do, it might be possible to convince Scott to build that feature into xACT...

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Hey the more the merrier.  I'm not familier with xACT but it seems like cue sheets would be a good feature.

I must be missing something how exactly would you create tracks in Audacity?

I thought Mac was suposed to be easier to use but so far I keep hitting roadblocks.  I'm trying to relearn everything I know how to do in windows >:(

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2004, 10:57:45 PM »
Ok I figured out how to create tracks.  Its amazing what reading the directions will do.  

However I haven't figured out if you can resample from 48 to 44.1.
I'm guessing that for a free product its not an option.  

Is there anything I should look at other than SoundStudio for resampling?

Edit: I found some information in other posts and online about using Itunes to resample mp3 and aiff and Ogg.  I cant find any information about resampling wav files with Itunes.  Is this possible? Recommended?

Unfortunatly I don't have easy access to my friends computer so I can't test this myself.  

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2004, 01:11:35 AM »
Why are you so opposed to actually splitting the wav file?  It's what I've done since I started taping, never any problems.  And if you did happen to have a problem, shntool -join isn't that hard to learn (and xACT makes it even easier).  ;D

And no, iTunes is not a program to use for resampling.  You probably want to jump to either Sound Studio (didn't it come with your mac???) or Spark LE/XL.
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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2004, 01:26:14 AM »
I've never used it, but Audacity MUST have resampling available in it. The online documentation says that before version 1.1 it couldn't, but says it's available in 1.1 and later...
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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2004, 07:04:14 AM »
>>I dunno any programs that create cue sheets.<<

shntool v2.0 will do simple cue sheets.  it's not finished yet though.  

(and yes, i built it into xACT for when the next shntool is done.  i've been testing a dev version)

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2004, 12:15:23 PM »
Why are you so opposed to actually splitting the wav file?  It's what I've done since I started taping, never any problems.  And if you did happen to have a problem, shntool -join isn't that hard to learn (and xACT makes it even easier).  ;D

And no, iTunes is not a program to use for resampling.  You probably want to jump to either Sound Studio (didn't it come with your mac???) or Spark LE/XL.

Having to split the wav file isn't a deal breaker for me and you're right the files could be joined but I do have my reasons.

1) I like to create 1 cue sheet for the 48 file and then use that same sheet for the 44.1 after I resample.  That way when I start creatinfg DVD-A discs hopefully I wont have to retrack everything.

2)The reason I'm trying to figure out how to do this with a mac is to get my friend who  is going to help me with tracking set up.  We are each going to do half of the tracking of the  Bonnaroo shows. I want to be able to transfer his half of the shows from the NJB3 to his laptop, and keep a copy for myself.  Ideally after he tracks the show he could simply send me the cue sheet by email rather than mailing me the entire FLAC file of the show. I would then match this to my copy of the show and burn cds.  

3) Old Habbit, this is the way I'm used to doing it

Should Sound Studio have come with the Mac?  Again its not my Mac so I wouldn't know if it had.  I'm going to check on that and purchase it if he doesn't have it already.

>>I dunno any programs that create cue sheets.<<

shntool v2.0 will do simple cue sheets.  it's not finished yet though.  

(and yes, i built it into xACT for when the next shntool is done.  i've been testing a dev version)

Scott, great work!



Thanks again everyone,

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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2004, 12:20:45 PM »
I've never used it, but Audacity MUST have resampling available in it. The online documentation says that before version 1.1 it couldn't, but says it's available in 1.1 and later...

I missed that in the documentation.  Searching for resample in the built in help file didn't turn up any thing usefull.  I'll look at the online information again.

Edit: This is all I have found so far

"A resampling feature is planned, so sounds of different sample rates can be combined in to one project."
From
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/manual-1.2/track_popdown.html


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Re:cd tracking program for MAC
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2004, 02:51:40 PM »
>>) I like to create 1 cue sheet for the 48 file and then use that same sheet for the 44.1 after I resample.  That way when I start creatinfg DVD-A discs hopefully I wont have to retrack everything.<<

I track 24/96 files in spark once.  then I use the batch converter to resample and dither.  result: 2 sets of files the exact same length (one 24/96, one 16/44.1) and i only split tracks once

you can probabaly do the same in plenty of other apps...

 

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