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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2006, 04:05:23 PM »
why not use the "batch process" tool in Wave Lab?  it will spit out a new set of 16/44 files, just run them through shntool or something to check for SBE's and you're good to go.

and you definitely have to use shntool because the batch process creates SBEs on every file as it doesnt maintain the integrity of the CDWAV cut file....

clarification, the above is only true of 'generic' markers.

nick - a way around this problem is to insert markers such as CD start, track splice and CD end(all types of markers)
i still run the files through SHNtool, but i've never seen a SBE from wavelab, if you use the appropriate marker.



good point...I have been so reliant on cdwav forever, i have a hard time moving away.


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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2006, 07:38:36 AM »
why not use the "batch process" tool in Wave Lab?  it will spit out a new set of 16/44 files, just run them through shntool or something to check for SBE's and you're good to go.

and you definitely have to use shntool because the batch process creates SBEs on every file as it doesnt maintain the integrity of the CDWAV cut file....

Exactly.
Better to retrack, IMHO.....unless someone has a better way.
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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2006, 08:08:49 AM »
I called out of work today. Just to lay low, enjoy some fine coffee, and get ready for the RAQ show tonight. :laugh:
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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2006, 08:48:31 AM »
why not use the "batch process" tool in Wave Lab?  it will spit out a new set of 16/44 files, just run them through shntool or something to check for SBE's and you're good to go.

and you definitely have to use shntool because the batch process creates SBEs on every file as it doesnt maintain the integrity of the CDWAV cut file....

Exactly.
Better to retrack, IMHO.....unless someone has a better way.
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I dither the untracked wav first so i have two files, a 16bit file and 24bit.  I then track the 24bit show and save a cue sheet.  then using notepad to open the .cue file, i just change the txt to associate with the 16bit file.  load the cue sheet in cdwav which then opens the 16bit file all nice and split properly.  no reason to run shntool at all.


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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2006, 09:11:28 AM »
I called out of work today. Just to lay low, enjoy some fine coffee, and get ready for the RAQ show tonight. :laugh:

If that works better for resampling/dither, im all for it. (though skip the raq part) :P

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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2006, 09:32:50 AM »
why not use the "batch process" tool in Wave Lab?  it will spit out a new set of 16/44 files, just run them through shntool or something to check for SBE's and you're good to go.

and you definitely have to use shntool because the batch process creates SBEs on every file as it doesnt maintain the integrity of the CDWAV cut file....

Exactly.
Better to retrack, IMHO.....unless someone has a better way.
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I dither the untracked wav first so i have two files, a 16bit file and 24bit.  I then track the 24bit show and save a cue sheet.  then using notepad to open the .cue file, i just change the txt to associate with the 16bit file.  load the cue sheet in cdwav which then opens the 16bit file all nice and split properly.  no reason to run shntool at all.

that works fine except when the 24 bith file is larger than 2 Gb, which wavelab will chock on.  What I have been doing is combining all of the files in WL so I will have one long file, dither/resample to 16/44.1.  Chop it up in CD Wav.  Then I take the 24 bit files, open them up in CD Wav, retrack and join the places where the splits occurred in Wavelab.  A bit time consuming, but protects the integrity of the file by not introducing SBEs

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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2006, 09:43:38 AM »
I don't think I can say I've had a 24bit file larger than 2gb's yet so I haven't experienced this.  Do other programs like Sound Forge or Audition choke on files larger than 2gb?  I use the izotope ozone mbit dithering plugin, which can be used in SF, I've never tried audition, but I'm sure you can use it there too.

All I'm using WL, SF, Audition for is for dithering anyway, and thats all done with the mbit plugin.  So technically it doesn't matter which program i use to do that in.


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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2006, 09:57:40 AM »
I don't think I can say I've had a 24bit file larger than 2gb's yet so I haven't experienced this.  Do other programs like Sound Forge or Audition choke on files larger than 2gb?  I use the izotope ozone mbit dithering plugin, which can be used in SF, I've never tried audition, but I'm sure you can use it there too.

All I'm using WL, SF, Audition for is for dithering anyway, and thats all done with the mbit plugin.  So technically it doesn't matter which program i use to do that in.

soundforge doesnt choke. I use Sequoia/Samplitude and those dont choke either.


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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2006, 09:58:54 AM »
I don't think I can say I've had a 24bit file larger than 2gb's yet so I haven't experienced this.  Do other programs like Sound Forge or Audition choke on files larger than 2gb?  I use the izotope ozone mbit dithering plugin, which can be used in SF, I've never tried audition, but I'm sure you can use it there too.

All I'm using WL, SF, Audition for is for dithering anyway, and thats all done with the mbit plugin.  So technically it doesn't matter which program i use to do that in.

I dont use SF but I remember reading Adobe may not have this issue.  Either way it isnt a huge deal, I just chop up the 24 bit file in CD Wav, and join the split tracks in WL...just a minor extra step

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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2006, 10:02:51 AM »
mmhmm.  i may end up doing the same thing once i start getting bigger 24bit files.


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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2006, 10:32:45 AM »
24/96 files are huge, but with the new wavelab the sky is the limit
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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2006, 10:33:57 AM »
24/96 files are huge, but with the new wavelab the sky is the limit

what release is that wavelab?

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« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2006, 10:35:48 AM »
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Re: easy way to dither / resample?
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