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Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« on: April 28, 2007, 11:44:52 PM »
I noticed my Behringer A/D would allow me to select Internal, External or Dig In as a clock source...I had tried to use the BNC connectors and the "External" setting - but that didn't seem to work. I got clicks on one source.

So, taking a clue from some of the questions Brian was asking about his new 4 track approach - I tried the "Dig In" setting - Seems to do the job!

I have 2 sources that will matrix without drift or the need for editing tricks!

So my setup was...

                                                         
Mics > dbx 386 @ 16/44 Coax out to CO2 > CO2 optical out > JB3 1 (aud)

CO2 coax out to > Behringer Ultramatch 2496 with Soundboard feed > JB3 2 (sbd)

edit: for clarity...
« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 08:56:41 AM by Roving Sign »
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 06:23:22 PM »
Apparantly, you are finding, as I also have discovered, that most devices that are capable of taking an external clock signal, can just pick it up through a S/PDIF input, along with the music source.  This was the subjuct of another thread involving syncing an AD-20.
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 11:43:19 PM »
SHIT!!!

I was in such a hurry to align the tracks...I forgot to make sure I had two DIFFERENT recordings - I don't!!!

I have two of the same thing (AUD)...(I thought that "SBD" sounded wierd...!)

As I recall - I couldn't get a lock on the Behringer at first - I probably pushed a button...saw signal and thought I had it...

I checked tonight - (the Behringer remembers your settings) - and one button was definitely not in the right place...

But - I swear I was getting the SBD feed in my headphones and was adjusting the input gain...so something still might be flaky -

Trying to duplicate my setup tonight - I am unable to create the "no lock" situation from the other night...

I'll rerun this setup in the morning with a fresh head...

Damn - serves me right for not rehearsing this at home...just wingin' it doesn't cut it...!!!
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2007, 11:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Roving Sign on April 28, 2007, 11:44:52 PM
I noticed my Behringer A/D would allow me to select Internal, External or Dig In as a clock source...I had tried to use the BNC connectors and the "External" setting - but that didn't seem to work. I got clicks on one source.

So, taking a clue from some of the questions Brian was asking about his new 4 track approach - I tried the "Dig In" setting - Seems to do the job!

I have 2 sources that will matrix without drift or the need for editing tricks!

So my setup was...

                                                         
Mics > dbx 386 @ 16/44 Coax out to CO2 > CO2 optical out > JB3 1 (aud)

CO2 coax out to > Behringer Ultramatch 2496 with Soundboard feed > JB3 2 (sbd)

edit: for clarity...

At one point I was considering this, but I just ended up buying an R4.  They are pretty cheap now, and you can't beat the convenience, either two or four track recording.  Less gear to worry about...

Let us know if your scheme works, though...

  Richard
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 12:33:08 PM »
SUCCESS! - Got it work as it should!

I'll put an archive link in Kickdown later tonight...

Very pleased with the results - pretty easy overall.
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2007, 12:35:46 PM »
Quote from: Roving Sign on June 06, 2007, 12:33:08 PM
SUCCESS! - Got it work as it should!

That's cool!

Now does anyone know if I can link 12 minidiscs to do a full 24 channel board multitrack?
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 01:14:03 PM »
Quote from: Freelunch on June 06, 2007, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Roving Sign on June 06, 2007, 12:33:08 PM
SUCCESS! - Got it work as it should!

That's cool!

Now does anyone know if I can link 12 minidiscs to do a full 24 channel board multitrack?


No... MD resamples digital input
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2007, 06:15:02 PM »
Here's the mix

http://www.archive.org/details/hexbelt2007-06-02.matrix

Dig down into tracks 20 something for the best sound...

The first three tracks the sound man is getting the mix together...and its a bit low - those are bit more AUD sounding than the rest...

(matirx done is Audacity...)
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Re: Using SPDIF to sync 2 JB3s for 4 matrixable tracks
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 06:33:51 PM »
Quote from: Freelunch on June 06, 2007, 12:35:46 PM

That's cool!

Now does anyone know if I can link 12 minidiscs to do a full 24 channel board multitrack?


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