Topic: CD storage options?

[wsphansam]

I'm curious to know what methods people use for storing their cd's/dvd's. I'm looking for a new solution as I have 8 binders that hold 200+ cd's that are full and have a few hundred more cd's piling up that aren't organized at all. I haven't had much luck with the binder method (zipper's break, the rings that hold the sleeves break..etc) so I'm looking to go another route. Suggestions?

[Brian Skalinder]

Higher quality binders?  Or more of your current binders, but only fill the pockets on one side of each page.  I know, not very efficient, but it seems to relieve the stress on the zippers, sleeve rings, and pocket enclosures.  I have a combination of binders + jewel cases stacked on shelving.

[Krispy D]

I just picked up a couple of these ( http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=12727&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*13805 ) at Ikea and are really happy with them.  one side for flacs and one side for auds, or whatever.  I use these ( http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=16141&cmArea=SEARCH ) sleeves from staples and put the labels at the top in the draweres.  Works well.  Holds a lot.

Kris

[Colin Liston]

I just picked up a couple of these ( http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=12727&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*13805 ) at Ikea

Those things are great but It really irrates me that they don't sell these over the internet.

[smokydays]

Those things are great but It really irrates me that they don't sell these over the internet.

I agree but I bet the shipping might get high on some of that kinda stuff..

[Ed.]

i just started storing my music discs in a paper sleeve.  I just use a normal sheet of printer paper and wrap it around the cd more or less.  on the front, i print the setlist/info file so i have all the info.

all of my flac discs are stored on dvd-r's and put in binders.  i put a reference number on each dvd-r, i also put the reference number on my list, that way i can look at my list and figure out what dvd the show i want to listen to is on.

[pfife]

i just started storing my music discs in a paper sleeve.  I just use a normal sheet of printer paper and wrap it around the cd more or less.  on the front, i print the setlist/info file so i have all the info.

all of my flac discs are stored on dvd-r's and put in binders.  i put a reference number on each dvd-r, i also put the reference number on my list, that way i can look at my list and figure out what dvd the show i want to listen to is on.

This is my system too, except I'm finished w/ Flac.  Archiving as .wav here.  My archived DVD-R's are in normal jewel cases in numeric order, for max protect.

[John R]

search function comes up with quite a few threads, like: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=20058.0

[Humbug]

This is my system too, except I'm finished w/ Flac.  Archiving as .wav here.  My archived DVD-R's are in normal jewel cases in numeric order, for max protect.

Could I ask why? I archive as FLAC (mostly on CDR), but also have an audio copy around if I want to listen to the show. FLAC = perfect copies possible, Audio = DAE, flaws possible, apparently even when using EAC.

If I get time later on I'll post a picture of my storage solution.

[Krispy D]

I just picked up a couple of these ( http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=12727&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*13805 ) at Ikea

Those things are great but It really irrates me that they don't sell these over the internet.

That sucks. I didn't realize that cause I have an Ikea right down the road so shipping is something I've never really looked into.  let me know if anybody wants me to pick up a couple and send them your way.  I can rum to the PO and see what the shipping would be...

kris

[Humbug]

Storage solution:



Masters on left, other trade stuff on right. All alphabeticised and FLAC'd

[mikeincharleston]

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=34215.0

here is another topic on this that has pics of my setup which i think works great, holds a sh*t ton of discs and can be found at any wal-mart for 10-15 bucks.  scroll down a bit and you will see pics of it.  my only problem is i never put them in there in any order so it's gonna take forever to get it all staight, but one day i will.

mike

[Simp-Dawg]

fwiw i still have not organized my discs  

[kindms]

This is my system too, except I'm finished w/ Flac.  Archiving as .wav here.  My archived DVD-R's are in normal jewel cases in numeric order, for max protect.

Could I ask why? I archive as FLAC (mostly on CDR), but also have an audio copy around if I want to listen to the show. FLAC = perfect copies possible, Audio = DAE, flaws possible, apparently even when using EAC.

If I get time later on I'll post a picture of my storage solution.

Well FLAC is definitley the method to go if you are going to and from the computer but for archiving the raw wav. file is usually considered better in the instance where physically damge occurs to the disc. If you have the raw file then damage to the physical disc will effect a certian part of the music. If in FLAC format physiacl damge would casue more data loss because more info going to be squaeezed on the disc.  But I believe the benefits of FLAC as you have mentioned outweigh the WAV argument but when it comes to physical damage you tend to lose more when compressed vs. RAW

[Brian Skalinder]

Could I ask why? I archive as FLAC (mostly on CDR), but also have an audio copy around if I want to listen to the show. FLAC = perfect copies possible, Audio = DAE, flaws possible, apparently even when using EAC.

Not WAV in audio format, WAV in data format - no DAE required.  Still perfect copies, but better error recovery since a given amount of physical damage will impact a smaller portion of the WAV file, and a larger portion of the compressed FLAC file.

[itook2much]

I use this (altho this is the 720 disc version, my case holds 510):



Got my case for about $60 w/ free shipping, this one is $79.99 w/ free shipping.

Available at Meritline.com.  When the 510 case first came out on the site, kept selling out so quickly it took me 6 weeks to order one.

http://www.meritline.com/720-cd-dvd-storage-wallet-case.html

[goose]

That is a cool case.  FYI, the link has info for a $15 coupon (code: AC18015OFF) off the $80, making it $65 with free shipping for the 720 case, which includes 360 double sided CD sleeves.

Thanks for the link.

[dhora]

I'm currently using a combination of Binders for audio and spindles for the lossless discs. I like some of those other methods though. I may consider changing since spindles are a bit of a pain for me to find things on the rare occasions I need the flac files.

[pfife]

Could I ask why? I archive as FLAC (mostly on CDR), but also have an audio copy around if I want to listen to the show. FLAC = perfect copies possible, Audio = DAE, flaws possible, apparently even when using EAC.

Not WAV in audio format, WAV in data format - no DAE required.  Still perfect copies, but better error recovery since a given amount of physical damage will impact a smaller portion of the WAV file, and a larger portion of the compressed FLAC file.

They pretty much answered the question, but my issue was that I have a number of FLAC files that can't be converted back to .wav anymore...  I suspect it is because a peice of the data got fucked up (drive corruption, I believe) - causing the data not to match the header.  When I discovered this stuff, a few weeks ago, I decided to go to actual audio CD-Rs, for a number of reasons.... My experience at my job (data archiving, kinda...) tells me that certain formats can fall by the wayside, and while I don't forsee that happening with FLAC or WAV, I see it as a possibility.  So, I put them on as audio cd's for the worst case scenario as I saw it - that I'd have to do a cd -> cd copy.

But, I just ordered an R-1, so what will probably happen from now on is a .wav data file on a dvd-r.  With media being relatively cheap these days, I don't see the need to compress files for archiving, given the problems that I've run into w/ FLACs before.

My $.02...  having the flacs but not being able to decompress them totally sucks.

[wbrisette]

I'm getting ready to build my own, but then I have a complete woodshop in my garage and build beds on the side, so building CD racks isn't that hard for me... If you're not inclined to build your own storage, you should check out Unlce Jon's Workshop. I have two of his DAT racks (yep, sometimes even I buy furniture), and they are great. I highly recommend them.

http://www.ujws.com/

(OK, and my plug... you can see the loft beds I build here: http://www.wbwoodworks.com)

Wayne

[JiB97]

careful with binders, the material that touches the information side of the disc can sometimes cause scratchng.  i've had discs stored in binders before I switched to plastic and paper cases and I found that some of my discs wouldn't play because of being rubbed against that fibrous material.  FWIW

[zowie]

I have my factory CDs in their jewel boxes in the biggest spinner I could find that holds about 1500.

My CD-Rs are in sleeves in a wooden drawer unit.  I've been switching from paper sleeves over to Univenture sleeves favored by DJs.  They can hold program info and multiple discs in about the same space as paper/tyvex.  I only use the "safety" ones that have special material to separate the discs from the sleeve.

[Karl]

Could I ask why? I archive as FLAC (mostly on CDR), but also have an audio copy around if I want to listen to the show. FLAC = perfect copies possible, Audio = DAE, flaws possible, apparently even when using EAC.

Not WAV in audio format, WAV in data format - no DAE required.  Still perfect copies, but better error recovery since a given amount of physical damage will impact a smaller portion of the WAV file, and a larger portion of the compressed FLAC file.

Here's what I do--and it answers multiple issues.

I FLAC and then double archive everything.  Then, if an error does occur, then you know you still have the second disc as backup.  That, and FLAC usually takes up less than half the space of WAV, so there is no more money invested in media.

No loss at all, no more media used than when saving as WAV data discs.

 

[Karl]

Could I ask why? I archive as FLAC (mostly on CDR), but also have an audio copy around if I want to listen to the show. FLAC = perfect copies possible, Audio = DAE, flaws possible, apparently even when using EAC.

Not WAV in audio format, WAV in data format - no DAE required.  Still perfect copies, but better error recovery since a given amount of physical damage will impact a smaller portion of the WAV file, and a larger portion of the compressed FLAC file.

They pretty much answered the question, but my issue was that I have a number of FLAC files that can't be converted back to .wav anymore...  I suspect it is because a peice of the data got fucked up (drive corruption, I believe) - causing the data not to match the header.  When I discovered this stuff, a few weeks ago, I decided to go to actual audio CD-Rs, for a number of reasons.... My experience at my job (data archiving, kinda...) tells me that certain formats can fall by the wayside, and while I don't forsee that happening with FLAC or WAV, I see it as a possibility.  So, I put them on as audio cd's for the worst case scenario as I saw it - that I'd have to do a cd -> cd copy.

But, I just ordered an R-1, so what will probably happen from now on is a .wav data file on a dvd-r.  With media being relatively cheap these days, I don't see the need to compress files for archiving, given the problems that I've run into w/ FLACs before.

My $.02...  having the flacs but not being able to decompress them totally sucks.

That does suck.  And you're sure that a small screwed up portion of the FLAC file screws up the whole thing?  No way around that?  That does make me worry a bit about my FLAC collection...

[Humbug]

I've been changing how I archive my JB3 recordings, and ended up triple or quadruple archive:

1. FLAC unedited + edited single track show + CD Wave cue, on Kodak CDR, or DVDR if its too big.

2. Tracked audio (normally this gets a bit of play in the home stereo, or the wife's car, before being retired).

3. Tracked FLAC + text file + ffp (whether I seed it or not).

4. (Optional) Seed it to the masses (or in most cases the handful of people that like my obscure heavy rock recordings   ).

[wsphansam]

I think I'm going to go the sleeves in a tupperware container route, is it worth spending the extra money on Tyvek sleeves over the paper ones?

[jaguaracer]

Hoping to get one of these babies for Christmas
http://www.factorydirect.ca/catalog/product_spec.php?pcode=WA0600