Author Topic: md recording (Read 6599 times)

WSPYMSBNUT · « **on:** November 20, 2003, 02:30:22 AM »

will this mini disk recorder work for recording live w/ powered mics
Sony MZ-NE410 it says it records via USB only so does that mean that recording from the soundboard or mics is not an option... the other models on crutchfield have minijack input (stereo analog and mini-optical digital) and another says it has that plus mic inputs.....little help

Scuba Jeremy · « **Reply #1 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:33:15 AM »

If you have powered mics, you will not need a "MIC" input, but you will still require a "LINE IN". I'm going to go and check to see if that model Sony you're looking at has a 1/8 Line In, but I think that model is what it says - USB only. That won't do you any good in the field.

As it is, I suggest you ditch Sony and look for a Sharp. They're built with tapers in mind!

WSPYMSBNUT · « **Reply #2 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:39:14 AM »

thanks alot so all i need is a line in heh

cpclark · « **Reply #3 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:52:09 AM »

if you go line in, your gonna need line transformers to bump up the gain to line level, id suggest gettin one with a mic in as well, but an outboard preamp is ideal for live recording situations, you'll find the quality of just going mics to MD just isnt that good IMHO

Scuba Jeremy · « **Reply #4 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:52:49 AM »

Assuming your mics are fully powered, either by an internal battery, or a battery box, then yes. But you will not just be able to plug in a non-powered mic and have that work.

WSPYMSBNUT · « **Reply #5 on:** November 20, 2003, 03:18:40 AM »

cool im thinking about going w/ a sharp 877

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #6 on:** November 20, 2003, 03:31:08 AM »

if you want to go sony, you can get a new MZ-N510 for $90-100 at best buy, this has the line in you need, and it's probably cheaper online.

for sharp, the cheapest/best way to go would be an mt180. These can be had for $80-90 shipped to your door.

what mics do you plan on using here?

WSPYMSBNUT · « **Reply #7 on:** November 20, 2003, 03:32:18 AM »

akg or shoeps

WSPYMSBNUT · « **Reply #8 on:** November 20, 2003, 03:39:49 AM »

where can i find that sharp mt180 online

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #9 on:** November 20, 2003, 04:43:42 AM »

wait wait wait, you are gonna run schoeps into a MD recorder?

regarding your question:
ebay, search sharp md. You can find a multitude of different recorders. Find some in your price range, look at the model numbers, and then compare the features you need (ie: line in) with this site http://www.minidisc.org/equipment_browser.html

good luck

Ed. · « **Reply #10 on:** November 20, 2003, 12:58:42 PM »

...theres a lot of dats of the m1/d100 variety i've seen on ebay recently for around 500 bux. if you're running schoeps or akg's i'd hang on a bit longer and get a dat, or at least a nomad. i think you'll get better recordings.

ed

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #11 on:** November 20, 2003, 01:32:46 PM »

ys, there's a m1 4 sale in the yard sale forum w/ 7-pin cable

zhianosatch · « **Reply #12 on:** November 20, 2003, 01:34:56 PM »

Quote from: WSPYMSBNUT on November 20, 2003, 03:32:18 AM

akg or shoeps

what the hell

WSPYMSBNUT · « **Reply #13 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:15:48 PM »

why should i not use akg or shoeps mics
am i wasting my time w/. the mini disk recorder if im using those mics
i decided to go w/ the md ms722 by sharp

WSPYMSBNUT · « **Reply #14 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:16:45 PM »

i would more likely use it to patch into soundboards is that possible w/ the optical in line, what other cables do i need, or cant i patch in w/ another taper

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:17:48 PM »

we're just saying that it seems silly to use ~$2400 mics and then run them into a $80 MD recorder.

Ed. · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:33:47 PM »

agreed.

remember that md has a lossy compression, and if you're dropping or have already dropped 2 grand on mics saving a couple hundred more dollars might be a better bet than using the md. believe me, you can tell the difference between an MD recording and any other recording.

not to be a jackass, md's are great for starters, but if you're running those mics into an MD you're probably not gonna end up with greatest sounding recordings no matter what you do.

i guess if you like the sound of md, go for it, don't listen to us, but i think you'd be better off with a DAT or a nomad

just my opinion, and my opinion doesn't matter
ed

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2003, 02:45:36 PM »

atleast get an external a/d. My MD recordings sound so much better with the AD-20

chuckcage · « **Reply #18 on:** November 22, 2003, 11:42:29 PM »

Schwilly, I used my MS907 > Old-Ass Sony MZ-R50 for a couple of years... When I got the NJB3, I realized how bad it sounded on its own and quickly ordered an AD-20. One time the battery took a shit in the NJB3 so I ran MS907 > AD-20 > MD. You're dead on about how much better it sounds than MS907 > MD.

I still have my 907.

Chuck

(+T for good use of a shitty mic, yeah?)

InfiniteOhms · « **Reply #19 on:** November 22, 2003, 11:50:45 PM »

yah ... if your going to use nice mics it would be very advisable to get a out board pre/a>d and Nomad or DAT (I personaly like the nomad)... the only selfpowered AKG mics i can think of are the c1000's ... if your running those it would be less painful to run them straight into a MD, but to get your $$ worth a outboard pre would be nice.

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #20 on:** November 23, 2003, 01:11:10 AM »

hell yeah chuck, the AD-20 really cleans up these consumer mics, gives detail at the bass heavy rock shows I tape.

iphone · « **Reply #21 on:** November 23, 2003, 05:29:54 AM »

i have used c12's with hhb md with spectacular results

joemango · « **Reply #22 on:** November 24, 2003, 02:41:42 PM »

GET A NOMAD. Don't waste your time with MD, it sucks transferring anything to CD.

This coming from a 5-year MD veteran. I bought my nomad JB3 in February and haven't used my MZR-700 at all since then.

Sean Gallemore · « **Reply #23 on:** November 24, 2003, 07:35:20 PM »

but you'll admit the 700 is a tank

chuckcage · « **Reply #24 on:** November 24, 2003, 07:47:55 PM »

Quote from: Schwilly on November 24, 2003, 07:35:20 PM

but you'll admit the 700 is a tank

No, the 700 is an APC. My R50 is a tank.

Chuck

Stumptown Matt · « **Reply #25 on:** November 24, 2003, 07:57:46 PM »

The deck is the least important part of your rig although a Nomad doesn't cost much more than a good MD deck. I say worry about the mics first then get whatever you can afford to record on. If you have good mics there is always a deck around to borrow.

chuckcage · « **Reply #26 on:** November 24, 2003, 08:58:27 PM »

Quote from: wp420247 on November 24, 2003, 07:57:46 PM

The deck is the least important part of your rig although a Nomad doesn't cost much more than a good MD deck. I say worry about the mics first then get whatever you can afford to record on. If you have good mics there is always a deck around to borrow.

Wow. I'm gonna have to, uh, disagree with you there. If seen lots of opportunities to patch, but I haven't seen a lot of people at shows with spare decks to lend...

Then again, maybe everyone had them and I was just such an asshole they never told me.

Chuck

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