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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2006, 12:10:55 PM »
When I copy over the files for the latest build (for optical recording), I lose several functions in the recordings setting area. For example I lose the ability to change frequencies and I can not set channels anymore. If I go back to the 5/9 build (the one I originally installed) these functions are back. I reset my settings just to make sure, but it seems like I'm doing something wrong. Any ideas to how I can get all the functions/selections back?

I've only had my iRiver for a few days now and I might try it out tonight. Before I try the latest builds, I copy my previous settings to my hard drive in case something goes wrong. So, I can move back and forth between builds.
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2006, 12:19:57 PM »
Co-inciding with the spdif recording code check-in there's been a clean-up of the recording settings, clearing out dead wood in preparation for 3.0.

The 'Channel' setting has never worked for rockbox on the iriver, so until a developer chooses to look at it, you've got the choice of stereo, stereo or stereo.

The sample-rate should now automagically be detected, so there's no longer an option to select it (which never worked anyways).

To be honest I'm not sure about the 16/48 on analog.  The auto-detection *may* work for analog too...but I suspect it won't.  Can someone confirm?
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2006, 12:26:45 PM »
Hehehe....thanks for quoting me having a brainfart for posterity! :-)

If anyone wants to be able to record at higher sample rates w/ analog, I suggest you mention it on the rockbox forum.  I'm going to lay off harassing the developers for a little while...before they take after me with a bat.
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2006, 12:33:52 PM »
whatboutbob, good job with these FAQs!  :coolguy:

I'd mention somewhere the possibility to turn on the iriver directly to the recording screen, which is a very good feature from a taper's point of view

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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2006, 01:26:49 PM »
AGI: Will do.

raoulduke: apparently 48kHz analog in won't be possible.
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2006, 01:57:36 PM »
Thanks for clearing that up for me. Now I know that I won't need to worry about frequency or channels. I would like to do 48khz though since that is one of the sample rate choices for the SBM-1. Is it possible for that? I can't plug my SBM-1 into the iRiver right now anyway as my SBM-1 has the coax mod, so I need to go coax to cptical. I will see if RS has the appropriate connectors.

It's not a big deal, since I can cope with 44.1.

On my settings for Rockbox one of the choices is to "Show Recording Screen On Startup". Which shows the recording screen when we start up. In fact, it does exactly that. Unless, you mean to turn on to the screen that shows both settings. I'd like that better myself!
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2006, 02:10:18 PM »
when running analog in, 16 bit, 44.1 kHz is currently the only option available, no 16/48; which is unfortunate.
How come?

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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2006, 05:14:15 PM »
when running analog in, 16 bit, 44.1 kHz is currently the only option available, no 16/48; which is unfortunate.
How come?

its a hardware limitation.  at max the iriver can handle up to 20 bits and 44.1.

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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2006, 05:17:05 PM »
Strange you can't do 48khz analog when I have heard that the iRiver has the same ADC as the JB3.  Maybe there are other hardware parts that go into the sampling rate.  Anyway, I will try to give the iRiver a run through this weekend and check out some of the funtionality.  I know I can test 44.1k and may be able to test 48k too.  Thanks to everyone here keeping up to date, especially whataboutbob for all his hard work on this.
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2006, 05:49:45 PM »
Is it retaining 88.2 or truncating it to 44.1?
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2006, 08:29:25 PM »
Ok, amiconn has clarified the sample rate issue.

If fed an optical signal anywhere up to 96kHz it will retain it, without truncation.

Apparently analog recording requires an audio clock that is simply not available.

Optical works at > 44.1kHz rates because that is clocked from the spdif input signal.
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2006, 12:51:01 AM »
So does anyone use a Mac with their iRiver?

Any plans on adding a Mac section to the FAQs? (other than the little info present)

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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2006, 12:55:35 AM »
Any plans on adding a Mac section to the FAQs? (other than the little info present)

If someone can supply the info...sure. :-)

I don't think I'm going to write any Mac info myself because I wouldn't know what the hell I'm on about.
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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2006, 01:25:09 AM »
Any hopes on 20-bit optical input?

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Re: iriver H1xx Tapers FAQ (beta...but optical's committed. Woot!!!)
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2006, 01:35:21 AM »
Any hopes on 20-bit optical input?

Slim.  Theoretically it looks possible, but it would require a major refactor of the recording (and possibly playback) code, so its highly doubtful it will happen any time soon.  I shouldn't set a timeframe because I'm not doing any of the work, but to give you *some* idea, think 6 months rather than 6 weeks or 6 days.
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