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pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« on: October 13, 2005, 08:29:37 AM »
has anyone else had their JB3 start introducing pops into the recording?. mine started to do that last weekend and i checked every cable and plug and they were all fine. i cleaned up the hard drive and reformatted the drive an since then i have recorded my tv in my room just to be able to listen for more noise. i did not get any. did this help anyone elses and should i do that more often?

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2005, 08:39:47 AM »
has anyone else had their JB3 start introducing pops into the recording?. mine started to do that last weekend and i checked every cable and plug and they were all fine. i cleaned up the hard drive and reformatted the drive an since then i have recorded my tv in my room just to be able to listen for more noise. i did not get any. did this help anyone elses and should i do that more often?

That was what I was going to suggest you do.   Mine was freezing up, and after a reformat, its been OK.   I've had other people tell me that they have to reformat like once a week to keep it from making sounds like you are describing.  I think its an issue with age...
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2005, 08:49:37 AM »
Is it age or a fragmented hard drive? I had recently deleted about 15 gigs off it before I recorded.

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2005, 08:51:41 AM »
Is it age or a fragmented hard drive? I had recently deleted about 15 gigs off it before I recorded.

It was because your HD was fragmented, not age

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2005, 10:05:22 AM »
Is it age or a fragmented hard drive? I had recently deleted about 15 gigs off it before I recorded.

It was because your HD was fragmented, not age

Yeah, age wasn't the right word.... but, what happened with mine, is that it went for a long time before I started having any problems... now, I have to reformat regularly.  I attribute that to age, but that's just me.
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2005, 10:39:19 AM »
id still try a known good/new optical cable as well. just in case.
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2005, 10:47:37 AM »
I taped the TV without pops so I guess I have a good cable. I am taping for beers tonight so I will know then.

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2005, 12:44:58 PM »
get everything off of the drive, and then do a disc cleanup and a reformat.  you'll have to go in and reset all of your original settings, but the pops and clicks won't be there on your next recording.

i do this before every show (or when its convenient) and don't have the problem anymore.  however, if i let it go for awhile without one, the pops and clicks come back.


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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2005, 02:11:27 PM »
get everything off of the drive, and then do a disc cleanup and a reformat.  you'll have to go in and reset all of your original settings, but the pops and clicks won't be there on your next recording.


this is what i did before taping judge judy and judge joe brown from my tv. no pops during judy!!

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2005, 02:18:22 PM »
hahahaha +t


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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2005, 02:30:52 PM »
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this is what i did before taping judge judy and judge joe brown from my tv. no pops during judy!!

plus tee for having to go back and listen to that crap afterwards.
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2005, 01:29:57 PM »
+t for this thread in general. haven't had this trouble but it's a good heads up as i get my gear together for vegoose.
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2005, 02:54:17 PM »
has anyone else had their JB3 start introducing pops into the recording?. mine started to do that last weekend and i checked every cable and plug and they were all fine. i cleaned up the hard drive and reformatted the drive an since then i have recorded my tv in my room just to be able to listen for more noise. i did not get any. did this help anyone elses and should i do that more often?

I think its the optical-In on the JB3 may have sh&t the bed.  I've already blown 3 of them so far.  All fixable by Creative.

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2005, 02:59:46 PM »
I think its the optical-In on the JB3 may have sh&t the bed.  I've already blown 3 of them so far.

What the heck are you doing to your JB3s, Dan?   :-X

FWIW, and this is for everyone, not just Dan - I recommend travelling with the optical cable NOT attached to the JB3.  Leaving it in, even the right-angle cables, will stress the connector and contribute to optical component failure.  Just like with portable DAT recorders, don't wanna travel with coax or 7-pin cables stuck in those, either.
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2005, 03:19:47 PM »
I think its the optical-In on the JB3 may have sh&t the bed.  I've already blown 3 of them so far.

What the heck are you doing to your JB3s, Dan?   :-X

FWIW, and this is for everyone, not just Dan - I recommend travelling with the optical cable NOT attached to the JB3.  Leaving it in, even the right-angle cables, will stress the connector and contribute to optical component failure.  Just like with portable DAT recorders, don't wanna travel with coax or 7-pin cables stuck in those, either.

Brian, I never leave the toslink attached.  Ever.  I was at a show a week ago, inserted the cable gently , as I usually do, and felt abnormal resistance.  Bang!  I got clicking in my recording.  I've had no issues until September of this year.  All 3 times, it had to do with the Kimber cable.  I'm gonna swap out Toslinks and use my old 3 foot w/ fixed right angles.  See what results I get.  Could be the RA on the Kimber cable is shot.       
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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2005, 07:14:49 PM »
I just did some tests.  Its the RA connector that goes into the AD20 this time.  I amend my post.  I blew 2 optical-ins on the JB3   

I did notice what a nice warm sound I get out of the Kimber toslink when I compare it to the SP clone.  I wonder why.

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2005, 11:19:25 AM »
get everything off of the drive, and then do a disc cleanup and a reformat.  you'll have to go in and reset all of your original settings, but the pops and clicks won't be there on your next recording.

i do this before every show (or when its convenient) and don't have the problem anymore.  however, if i let it go for awhile without one, the pops and clicks come back.
Stupid question, but does the reformat mean updating the firmware again? I get a click in one channel at the start of every recording and I've just been editing it out. I'm not sure if it happens anywhere else. I just delete after 8 or 10 shows.

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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2005, 11:37:57 AM »
you don't have to update the firmware when you reformat or do a disc cleanup.

as for the click, is it within the first second and just barely there?  i get that too with the disc cleanup/reformat.  i've hard of other people having it too.  i don't know if anyone else figured out how to fix it or what, but i usually just edit it out in post.

for me the format/cleanup helps keep the little blips and digi noise type clicks and junk out of the recording.  however, i don't think everyone has the click/blip/diginoise problem, just some.  which is kind of weird.


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Re: pops and cracks on JB3 recordings
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2005, 12:36:53 PM »
you don't have to update the firmware when you reformat or do a disc cleanup.

as for the click, is it within the first second and just barely there?  i get that too with the disc cleanup/reformat.  i've hard of other people having it too.  i don't know if anyone else figured out how to fix it or what, but i usually just edit it out in post.

for me the format/cleanup helps keep the little blips and digi noise type clicks and junk out of the recording.  however, i don't think everyone has the click/blip/diginoise problem, just some.  which is kind of weird.
yep, in the first second, one channel and barely there. I edit it out in post. I'm not sure how long it's been going though.

 

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