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Title: gold plated connectors...
Post by: save on July 23, 2004, 01:04:10 AM
may be a dumb questions, but why are gold plated connectors so good?  coppers a better conductor than gold, so why not use copper? 
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Post by: Nick Culbreth on July 23, 2004, 02:16:20 AM
gold doesn't oxidate.
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Post by: Sean Gallemore on July 23, 2004, 06:36:02 AM
gold doesn't oxidate.

chemistry ruled!

I wish I was still taking classes
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Post by: save on July 23, 2004, 06:17:52 PM
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gold doesn't oxidate.

that's what i figured, thanks for anwsering my question +T
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Post by: 1st set only on July 26, 2004, 10:42:44 AM
would a hot glue gun solve the oxidation problem?
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Post by: JasonSobel on July 28, 2004, 03:11:49 PM
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would a hot glue gun solve the oxidation problem?

only it might be hard to plug your mic cables into your pre if the XLR connector is filled with hot glue  ;)
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Post by: jpschust on July 28, 2004, 03:26:16 PM
for some reason i remember when copper oxidizes it actually becomes a better conductor (one of the only, if not the only metal that does that)
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Post by: Tim on July 28, 2004, 04:38:59 PM
for some reason i remember when copper oxidizes it actually becomes a better conductor (one of the only, if not the only metal that does that)

this is true
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Post by: jk labs on July 29, 2004, 04:10:11 PM

may be a dumb questions, but why are gold plated connectors so good?  coppers a better conductor than gold, so why not use copper? 

The issue is more complex than that!

Gold-gold plated connections will maintain a low impedance connection for years to come provided BOTH connectors are plated with gold. This is so because gold does not oxidize.
 
For gold/non-gold connections the matter is reversed: the non-gold connector degrades "rapidly" because there is no protective layer developing that can prevent agressive chemicals from diffusing in along the gold boundary and oxidize the entire conductive surface and thereby cause a very poor electrical connection.

Jon

PS Despite claims to the contrary CuO2 is not a conductor!!
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Post by: jpschust on July 29, 2004, 04:20:21 PM
but this doesnt make sense to me.  if copper becomes a better conductor as it ages and oxidizes, why wouldnt copper be the "gold standard" if you will, for everything
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Post by: Brian on July 29, 2004, 05:29:37 PM
jonny check out this link it might answer your question.

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/eng99/eng99154.htm

jk knows what he is talking about ;)

edit: to put it simply corrosion(oxidization) = increase of resistance thus CuO is not a good conductor at all.  :)
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Post by: jpschust on July 29, 2004, 05:43:53 PM
yah im just trying to better understand it myself :-)  ty for the link.
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Post by: Brian on July 29, 2004, 05:47:28 PM
no problem bud, just trying to help! popular belief can be quite hazardous to attaining the truth in some cases :)
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Post by: Tim on July 29, 2004, 11:12:06 PM
thanks for the link!
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Post by: BCostigan on July 30, 2004, 06:59:43 AM
Jonny I thought we went through this......maybe we did and I was wrong.

In my world the oxidized copper is far less conductive.  I'm sure Justin does this too....every time I make an electrical connection to an old piece of (green) copper I have to remove the oxidized layer with a wire brush to get the best connection.  If the green copper was MORE condutive we'd leave it.


My thought is this:

Air is an isulator....so an oxidized layer will have a greater insulation vaule.
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Post by: jpschust on July 30, 2004, 09:31:05 AM
just because you say it 30 times doesnt mean i get it :-P  that should be obvious looking at some of my gear purchasing history :-P
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Post by: 1st set only on July 30, 2004, 09:48:36 AM
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would a hot glue gun solve the oxidation problem?

only it might be hard to plug your mic cables into your pre if the XLR connector is filled with hot glue  ;)

ahh yes this would pose a problem bu i really ment soldered connections. as in when making cables hot glue all the solderd points to revent oxidation.
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Post by: Tim on July 31, 2004, 11:41:14 AM
very informative guys... thanks.
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Post by: admkrk on August 13, 2004, 05:33:07 PM
my understanding is gold connecters only help if you have gold connections to plug them into. also if you plug unplug a lot you'll wear off the gold plate realy fast. (ment for home use were you leave everything plugged in)

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