Topic: Loud Crowd/Quiet Show

[blu666z]

How to you raise the quiet parts when you have a show like this.

[zhianosatch]

Soft limit.

[blu666z]

Post show.  

-Kevin

[John R]

bummer

[zhianosatch]

BIG bummer! You either have a fuckload of manual gain changes ahead of you, or a lost show.

[BC]

Personally, I compress the clapping parts with a hard limiter to a peak level less than where the music peaks, then normalize the whole set. It is a  little tedious to highlight each part but once you get rolling it goes pretty quick.

You can also play around with adjusting the volume on the clapping parts.

Good luck!
Ben

PS: When archiving shows like this I typically archive one raw copy, one edited version at 24/48, and the final 16/44.1 edited version. Makes it easy to go back if necessary.

[Sean Gallemore]

normalize the whole thing and then compress in between songs, or the other way around, not sure which is better

[MattD]

Waves L2 Ultramaximizer. It'll compress the hell out of the applause, but who cares?

[blu666z]

Can you leave this up until I get home tonite?  6PST.

-Kevin

[BC]

normalize the whole thing and then compress in between songs, or the other way around, not sure which is better

Compress first, then normalize. You might need to repeat after the first normalization, since when the levels get boosted it is easier to note any claps that you might have missed the first time. Compressing these spots more will allow you to normalize the whole set to a higher level if you wish to do so.

Take care,
Ben

[JAH]

another way may be to analog out to a MME and Soft limit w/ it...ya I know more ADC's but you are already F'ing w/ it and iffin ya gots some quality DAC then maybe not a bad way to go.

gfl
jah

[dklein]

I've always liked CEP hard limiting with a 0ms look ahead time.  Otherwise, the sound tends to pump up and down.

Looking at your wave image there, I'd guess you want to hard limit to -30dB or even less (meaning -35, -40 etc.)

Hard limit the applause segments one at a time, then boost the whole thing once to bring your peaks back to 0dB.  Editing in 32 bit mode might also be a good move -  you're gonna need some serious boost to get the music back - looks like other than the applause, you don't even hit -30dB.

[Lee]

Soft limit.

Ahh, the joys of taping Nickel Creek...

looks like a really short set- were you stealthing?

[Karl]

Yes, the Waves Ultramaximizer rocks!  It will sound great for fixing that type of thing.

[blu666z]

I didn't actually tape the show...just converting it for a friend.  He did stealth it.  It was a radio show in the Space Needle.  I grabbed the Waves package that Alex linked to but I'm not real sure what to do with it yet...haven't had a chance to play around w/ it yet,.

-Kevin

[olyrc]

I didn't actually tape the show...just converting it for a friend.  He did stealth it.  It was a radio show in the Space Needle.  I grabbed the Waves package that Alex linked to but I'm not real sure what to do with it yet...haven't had a chance to play around w/ it yet,.

-Kevin

Man, you've got some pretty sneaky friends.

I'm starting to wish I hadn't taken that pic, btw.

[blu666z]

-Kevin

[sexymexi]

its probably like that cause it was unplugged like they do their encore's.  would be really cool if you were in the 1st row, but others..  the shows i have when they did that, don't sound good at all, looks just like that, songs quiet, loud crowd....  bummer..  oh well.. good band none the less

[Chad817]

I had the same problem when I taped them this past summer.  This reminded me to go back and work on it...