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744T Questions
« on: December 30, 2007, 02:42:09 PM »
Sorry for putting this in the wrong section but I am needing an answer in the next hour or so. 

So running a 744 for the first time and do I want to run WAV Poly or WAV Mono? 

Also, Does the timecode on the front always just continuously run even though the deck is not recording? 
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Re: 744T Questions
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 02:55:35 PM »
Sorry for putting this in the wrong section but I am needing an answer in the next hour or so. 

So running a 744 for the first time and do I want to run WAV Poly or WAV Mono? 

Also, Does the timecode on the front always just continuously run even though the deck is not recording? 

4 channel - mono
2 channel - poly

unless you're synching with video, no need for the timecode

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Re: 744T Questions
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 03:13:20 PM »
Sorry for putting this in the wrong section but I am needing an answer in the next hour or so. 

So running a 744 for the first time and do I want to run WAV Poly or WAV Mono? 

Also, Does the timecode on the front always just continuously run even though the deck is not recording? 

4 channel - mono
2 channel - poly

unless you're synching with video, no need for the timecode

1 gb file split



QFT - a lot of software can't handle 4 channel poly files, so just use mono and combine them as you wish.   Timecode can be turned off in one of the menu options.
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Re: 744T Questions
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 04:09:23 PM »

4 channel - mono
2 channel - poly
1 gb file split


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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 06:00:34 PM »
Great thanks guys and thanks for the call Brian. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 04:05:00 PM »
IF you ever do record in poly and later need to break them up into mono wav files, be sure to download the Fostex utility BWF Manager. That will allow you to split up poly files.

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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 09:30:21 AM »
Cool, thanks Wayne.  I was actually thinking about this last night in some greater detail.  By recording poly wav files you are just getting a mix of your left and right sources which seems easier to manage.  You still get two files, one for channels 1&2 and another for channels 3&4.  What are some instances that you would need four mono files?  I just seem to be missing the logic.  (not the first time) ;D
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Re: 744T Questions
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »
SD also has a utility called Wave Agent to combine mono, split poly, etc.

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Here is the link...

http://www.sounddevices.com/products/waveagent.htm
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 04:53:03 PM »
SD also has a utility called Wave Agent to combine mono, split poly, etc.

Thanks for that tip.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 05:22:56 PM »
What are some instances that you would need four mono files?  I just seem to be missing the logic.  (not the first time) ;D

Depends on the application. For example, I mirror poly files from the Deva when I know the files are going to Final Cut Pro or when I've sent things for Telecine. However, when I'm doing my own post, I mirror mono files because Digital Performer still can't handle poly broadcast wav files, so you have to import each channel as a mono file.

It's really up to you as a workflow sort of thing. The Deva allows you to mirror files after the fact as either mono or poly. Seems that the 744T doesn't.

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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2008, 09:24:39 PM »
Further more, how can I figure out how much to pan each file to get a good stereo image.  On playback I am getting dead even levels when it is clear that my right channel is about 3dB less then my right.  This seems odd even if I am dealing with mono files. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2008, 07:28:08 PM »
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Re: 744T Questions
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2008, 05:18:15 AM »
Further more, how can I figure out how much to pan each file to get a good stereo image.  On playback I am getting dead even levels when it is clear that my right channel is about 3dB less then my right.  This seems odd even if I am dealing with mono files. 

Hmm. I guess I am not alone in not quite understanding the question. It sort of reads dense. Anyway, here is what I do when mixing to stereo. I of course use a program in my computer, my favourite is Samplitude.

Generally it is very simple, mics to the left goes left and mics to the right gets panned to the right. Mics in the middle goes in the middle. When I have spot mics (= mics close to one instrument) it can get more complicated. I like to delay the spot mics a little so that the sound arrives a little later than the sound from the main pair of mics. I try by moving the spot mic fader up and down while listening, the stereo position should not change.

In all though, the only thing that counts is the end result. EQ, room simulation (=reverb), maybe even a bit of compressor -- all is possible.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 04:08:09 PM »
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Re: 744T Questions
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2009, 07:43:31 PM »
can someone please elaborate on the 4 x mono file workflow. The first recording I made on it, I didn't know how to deal with the 4 x mono files. So what I did was open all 4 of them and then panned channel 1 left and channel 2 right. Channels 3 & 4 were off the SBD so there was no panning necessary. After I got done mixing it, I was told I was doing it wrong. The proper technique is to render the channels 1 & 2 into one stereo file then repeat for 3 &4, then combine stereo 1 and stereo 2. that seems like a pita. How is my panning the stereo channels in mono mode different then what I was told to do? somebody please help.

 

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