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R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« on: March 26, 2008, 11:08:12 AM »
I'm thinking of getting an open rig using a pair of R0DE NT5's and a Fostex FR-2LE.  What do all of you think about this?
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2008, 11:12:04 AM »
Consider the Busman mics or Avantones or Studio Projects C4's.  The deck is nice.

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2008, 11:26:19 AM »
I would save up some extra cash and go for the Busman mics. You get 4 different capsules: omni, cardiod, hyper card, and sub card $450. The NT5's have a fixed cardiod capsule $275. NT5's were my first pair of microphones. I made some good recordings with them running XY. To me they sound like a KM184. You should also consider have your FR2LE modded by Busman or Oade Brothers, as you will see noticeable improvement in the preamps head room and internal noise level. You could alway go for a pair of Church Audio mini microphones and have chris build them terminating in XLR so that you could run them directly into your FR2LE.

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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2008, 11:33:11 AM »
Very few people as tapers here seem to like these mics but I chatted with a nice lad by the name of ArchivalAudio who said that they are a pretty decent pair of mics. Personally, I want to buy a pair of these over C4s because they are Rode mics. BH sells them as low as $315 for a pair, while C4s are around $400. I also know NOLAFish (or something similar) owns a pair. There are many recordings made with these pair over at archive.org Go have a listen!
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2008, 07:34:33 PM »
...The NT5's have a fixed cardiod capsule $275. NT5's were my first pair of microphones. I made some good recordings with them running XY.

Actually it's not fixed, you can swap capsules on the NT5, Omni capsules available. Screw off/on.

http://www.rode.com.au/microphone.php?product=NT5

I have a pair and an NT4 with the same capsules. They sound great. As noted the tapers around here seem to have different tastes. I use an NT4 quite a bit for field recording.

http://www.rode.com.au/microphone.php?product=NT4

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2008, 09:54:17 PM »
I would save up some extra cash and go for the Busman mics. You get 4 different capsules: omni, cardiod, hyper card, and sub card $450.

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2008, 06:30:15 AM »
 For the price, the NT5's are pretty much as good as you're going to get. I was debating between paired NT5's and an NT4. It's probably going to sound strange to some of you, but I really needed the versatility of the NT4. Yeah; a fixed 90*XY is "versatile" where I come from and it's fair to say that I'm quite fond of my NT4.

 I've done location recording (amplified concerts, interviews, environmental sounds) with it paired to a Sony MZR700. I've had nothing but good results from the microphone itself. The MZR700, on the other hand, has seen better days (dropouts, disc errors - cleaning doesn't help). So I'm currently shopping for a solid-state recorder. But that's a story for another thread.

 The NT4 (and, one would presume, the NT5) is a giant leap up (in both quality and price) from the Sony MS907 I had been using. I've used the NT4 at home to record band rehearsals, self-released recordings, and group discussions. It's mono-compatible, which comes in handy for recording vocals (or you can leave them in stereo). I've even thought about shockmounting it to the ceiling of the rehearsal space (to keep it in one place) and then moving equipment in and out of the space to multitrack (also another thread - maybe another board - definitely worth trying). The NT4 is the Swiss Army Knife of microphones, as far as I'm concerned.

 The only problem I've had with it is finding a decent outdoor windscreen for it. Dead kitten?

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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 06:58:49 AM »
  The only problem I've had with it is finding a decent outdoor windscreen for it. Dead kitten?

Yes that will work, the one that is designed for the stereo-video mic slips over the foam windscreen.

BTW: I use my NT4 in a blimp when outdoors. Great mic, the convenience of the NT4 makes it very pleasant to use.

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 05:50:47 PM »
Tony Faulkner(google his name and you will have some idea of just how well he is regarded in recording-engineer land..being one of the greatest engineers around) speaks very, very highly of Rode mics,in an email to me(I got permission to post his reply:) (the question was what is his favorite pair of SDCs, his desert island pair)


[i]"My favourite small diaphragm omni is the Rode most probably.  There's a surprise.  They do an omni capsule for the NT5, NT55 and NT6 - it's very good and very omni.  If you want something more politically correct and less omni (i.e. more directional, which can be useful in the real world) I'ld suggest the Schoeps MK2H or DPA4003".[/i]

so there you go...

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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 07:23:36 PM »
I have both the NT-4 and also recently purchased SP C-4's and have been really happy with both purchases, and have pulled decent recordings using both.  I went w/ the NT-4 because it was my first mic, and being a fixed stereo pair, fool proof.  The C-4's have more room to play with placement (and user error), but do come highly recommended with others here.....good luck!
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2008, 09:54:29 PM »
The NT5's are not designed for audio recording. They are great for drum overheads though. I wouldn't use them for anything else.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2008, 10:57:15 PM »
The NT5's are not designed for audio recording. They are great for drum overheads though. I wouldn't use them for anything else.

if they arent designed for audio recording, do tell just what they were designed for.  I would venture to say that with any decent microphone system(Rode certainly qualifies) the ability to get good results is limited only by the [in]competence of the person that is using them.

Are these blurbs from the manufacturer, and comments from Tony Faulkner and Bruce Swedien (Tony comments are quoted above, Bruce Swedien comments can be found on Gearslutz among other places--he uses them for acoustic guitar micing..if those two arent qualified enough to comment on microphone theory and application, I dont know who is.)  null and void?


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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2008, 06:09:54 AM »
  The only problem I've had with it is finding a decent outdoor windscreen for it. Dead kitten?

Yes that will work, the one that is designed for the stereo-video mic slips over the foam windscreen.

BTW: I use my NT4 in a blimp when outdoors. Great mic, the convenience of the NT4 makes it very pleasant to use.

 It did look like the "kitten" was the right size to fit over the boxy foam that Rode includes with the mic. Thanks to your comment, I did a little digging (and listened to some of your "walk around" recordings) and a blimp really does sound (literally) like a good solution to wind noise. I may wait for Rode's blimp, if it ever makes it to production (and -more importantly- if the price is right). Most of my recording lately has been done indoors (Michigan winter) so wind noise isn't a big deal at the moment. I do have a definite outdoor gig this summer but it's not exactly paying the bills so I'm not too worried about it. Maybe I'll make a trip to the fabric store and look for some faux fur to experiment with building my own "feline".

The NT5's are not designed for audio recording. They are great for drum overheads though. I wouldn't use them for anything else.

if they arent designed for audio recording, do tell just what they were designed for.
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 Sorry, Charlie, but Teddy's spot on. Judging by the gear in your sig, you've heard some pretty good stuff. Good for you. But maybe the OP isn't looking to drop $1k+ on a pair of microphones. Interestingly, you call the NT5 a "great" drum overhead. And my experience says that if a microphone is capable of accurately capturing a drum kit, you can record pretty much anything (up to and including amplified music) with it and be OK.

 And, as for Teddy's second statement, I completely agree. A shitty recording made on "great" gear (and I've heard quite a few) is still a shitty recording. But a great recording made on mediocre gear takes talent (or, as Teddy wrote, "competence"). My personal take is that, if you can get the same sort of quality out of the NT5 that I can out of my NT4, a matched pair (in good hands) is worth every penny of $315 (when compared to anything I've heard or read about in the sub-$500 price range).

 But if you have more disposable income, there certainly are "better" microphones to be had. The Busman pair mentioned above definitely doesn't sound bad (and comes with multiple sets of capsules, a T-bar, shockmounts, etc.) - in other words; the kit is a bargain at $525 (or whatever he's charging for it). The best advice I can give is to search archive.org (or whatever) for recordings made with a rig similar to the one you want to use. Listen to them. Then listen to stuff recorded on "better" microphones. Decide for yourself if the (generally small) difference is worth the (generally large) additional cost. Good luck!
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2008, 10:46:38 PM »
But if you have more disposable income, there certainly are "better" microphones to be had.

Yes and no. :)

Yes there are better mics than a pair of NT5s or NT4.

But the NT4/5's are of professional quality, quiet, and make excellent recordings. More money buys different sonic character (which is a matter of personal preference), not necessarily better technical 'quality' of the sound. Of course no mic can record everything equally well, no matter what price bracket it is in.

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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2008, 10:58:26 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2008, 11:17:41 PM »
But if you have more disposable income, there certainly are "better" microphones to be had.

Yes and no. :)

Yes there are better mics than a pair of NT5s or NT4.

But the NT4/5's are of professional quality, quiet, and make excellent recordings. More money buys different sonic character (which is a matter of personal preference), not necessarily better technical 'quality' of the sound. Of course no mic can record everything equally well, no matter what price bracket it is in.

Mics like wine, are best judged blind.

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cant quantify "better"....but they are definitely professional tools. Some may not like the flavor(and maybe there are those that cannot get good results due to their own shortcomings as a sound-recordist, not because of any issues with the microphones), but that doesnt mean much.


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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2008, 11:29:25 PM »
I speak as an NT5 owner. I have used them in many locations and the only way they have ever sounded good is as instrument micing and drum overheads. I bought a matched pair of NT5's in 2003. I have taped approx 400 shows with them.

Just trying to help by giving my experiences as an owner of the mics.


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I love Rode mics. I have owned a pair of NT2's for 7 years and I like them more than the shcoeps.

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I can post some 24bit samples if needed
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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2008, 01:19:15 AM »
I can post some 24bit samples if needed

 That could be most helpful, Charlie. What recording device/preamps/etc. do you use with your NT5's?

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2008, 12:22:43 PM »
I speak as an NT5 owner. I have used them in many locations

my only issue with what you said is the statement "they are not made for audio recording"...or something to that effect, when that is exactly what they were designed for...it potentially steers someone from what may be the best mic they ever hear. to the OP, if you buy them and dont like them, I will buy them for whatever you paid for them from you.. I want a pair anyway.

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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2008, 12:49:18 PM »
i say get the NT6 and you have some economic actives, actives are all the rage on TS  ;)

FWIW Terry Manning likes rode mics too.  http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/7346/0/32/17411/



"Let me elucidate further for the purposes of clarification. I am tiring of posts regarding Rode microphones, and of being associated with being a "mouthpiece" for them. But it is important that my words explain the enormity of the awakening I had regarding the brand.

Before December of 2004, I hated Rode mics (not having ever used one of course). I had no idea at all where they were made, what the people involved were like, or what their goals were. I had publicly derided Rode in the same breath as several other "non-standard" microphone brands.

I was virtually forced against my will and better judgement to use MANY of their mics on a project while tracking in Australia, and I was completely taken by surprise when they worked just fine at a professional level. That actually made me feel bad about how I had previously felt, and what I had previously said. That is why I made the post on the Compass Point Studios website.

While on that same Australian four month trip, and after successfully using the microphones and commenting about them to the studio owner and manager, Rode invited me to visit their factory. I had not even known that the mics were made there...that's how oblivious I was to the brand. I made that factory trip, and met the people involved. I was very impressed. This was not a company outsourcing products from China or other places, just marketing someone else's product under their brand name. This was a dedicated group of music loving (and playing, in many cases) people who genuinely cared about music and their product's quality. Vintage Neumann and AKG mics were sitting in their test room for comparison. They wanted to know exactly what I thought about their mics, both good and bad, in the hopes of continually improving them. The factory was state of the art, and had cost well over $25 million to build. They made their own capsules (I saw it), made their own bodies, electronics, grilles, everything. Their goal was to make the very best product at any price, but to also make it in quantities which made the cost of the final product as affordable as possible. This is a new business model borne of the computer revolution's opening up of the marketplace into the home and garage. This attempt at pricing structure was never possible before. But the goal was, and is, to make the best product they possibly could to serve the music. And of course, at the end of the day, to make money with a successful business. Why else would they invest so much to begin with?"
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2008, 12:56:51 PM »
i say get the NT6 and you have some economic actives, actives are all the rage on TS  ;)




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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2008, 05:11:13 PM »
i say get the NT6 and you have some economic actives, actives are all the rage on TS  ;)

FWIW Terry Manning likes rode mics too.  http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/7346/0/32/17411/



"Let me elucidate further for the purposes of clarification. I am tiring of posts regarding Rode microphones, and of being associated with being a "mouthpiece" for them. But it is important that my words explain the enormity of the awakening I had regarding the brand.

Before December of 2004, I hated Rode mics (not having ever used one of course). I had no idea at all where they were made, what the people involved were like, or what their goals were. I had publicly derided Rode in the same breath as several other "non-standard" microphone brands.

I was virtually forced against my will and better judgement to use MANY of their mics on a project while tracking in Australia, and I was completely taken by surprise when they worked just fine at a professional level. That actually made me feel bad about how I had previously felt, and what I had previously said. That is why I made the post on the Compass Point Studios website.

While on that same Australian four month trip, and after successfully using the microphones and commenting about them to the studio owner and manager, Rode invited me to visit their factory. I had not even known that the mics were made there...that's how oblivious I was to the brand. I made that factory trip, and met the people involved. I was very impressed. This was not a company outsourcing products from China or other places, just marketing someone else's product under their brand name. This was a dedicated group of music loving (and playing, in many cases) people who genuinely cared about music and their product's quality. Vintage Neumann and AKG mics were sitting in their test room for comparison. They wanted to know exactly what I thought about their mics, both good and bad, in the hopes of continually improving them. The factory was state of the art, and had cost well over $25 million to build. They made their own capsules (I saw it), made their own bodies, electronics, grilles, everything. Their goal was to make the very best product at any price, but to also make it in quantities which made the cost of the final product as affordable as possible. This is a new business model borne of the computer revolution's opening up of the marketplace into the home and garage. This attempt at pricing structure was never possible before. But the goal was, and is, to make the best product they possibly could to serve the music. And of course, at the end of the day, to make money with a successful business. Why else would they invest so much to begin with?"


I knew they manufactured the mics, but I thought the capsules were made in China.  If they are really made (or at least "skinned") in Australia, that is great news.

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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2008, 06:39:12 PM »
I can post some 24bit samples if needed

 That could be most helpful, Charlie. What recording device/preamps/etc. do you use with your NT5's?

I was using a presonus digimax96 > alesis HD24.

I left for a month on the road and will be home late may. I'll post samples then. sorry I couldn't get them out sooner.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2008, 06:40:17 PM »
I speak as an NT5 owner. I have used them in many locations

my only issue with what you said is the statement "they are not made for audio recording"...or something to that effect, when that is exactly what they were designed for...it potentially steers someone from what may be the best mic they ever hear. to the OP, if you buy them and dont like them, I will buy them for whatever you paid for them from you.. I want a pair anyway.

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What I meant (and so poorly stated) was that they are not good mics for audience taping. They are killer mics for instrument recording though. keep in mind, this is just my opinion.
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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2008, 07:13:46 PM »

I knew they manufactured the mics, but I thought the capsules were made in China.  If they are really made (or at least "skinned") in Australia, that is great news.

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They are 100% Australian made...you can see the videos on their site.

http://www.rodemic.com/history.php

...or used to be able to see them :) I'll see if I can track the promo-video down...

On the other hand, Chinese manufacturing is now amongst the most advanced in the world. The interesting thing about China is that they can make equipment to any quality specification you care to name. From chip fabrication to plastic spoons, they do it all, and do it cheaply. A lot of high-end gear is manufactured there. If anyone has a prejudice against China, it's just the prejudice against Japan all over again.

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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2008, 07:25:53 PM »
gotta say, this thread title keeps throwing me. at a quick glance I keep seeing - RODENTS

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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2008, 07:55:26 PM »
Rode Factory video found...

Click here to download the video 11 Meg (.wmv format).

I spoke to them yesterday, they will have a new video up soon. More detail of their latest Aus manufacturing facility.

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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2008, 08:06:40 PM »

It did look like the "kitten" was the right size to fit over the boxy foam that Rode includes with the mic. Thanks to your comment, I did a little digging (and listened to some of your "walk around" recordings) and a blimp really does sound (literally) like a good solution to wind noise.

I spoke to Rode today, they updated the dead-kitten section to mention the NT4 (with foam).

http://www.rodemic.com/accessory.php?product=DeadKitten

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2008, 08:27:28 PM »
I have always been curious about these mics.  However I never really like the frequency curve on them.  It drops off from 10k to 20k across a 10db range.  It may sound great micing a cabinet but for distance recording I am sure they would sound....dark.  But I see with the NT6 you can get a presence boosted card cap that has a curve like a 184.  I am sure it has a little more sizzle than the flat card, as rode calls it and being an active set up it would fit right into our needs as tapers.........mmmm

And Charlie, I have always loved the sound of your nt2's from back in the day.  That is one of my favorite sounding mics ever.  It always made me wonder why more people didn't use the nt2....

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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2008, 08:28:43 PM »
Having had and gotten rid of a set of matched NT5's I thought the sound was a little too bright and thin for my personal tastes.  For the same money ended up with a set of ADK A51s mics...but then your are comparing a ld mic against a sd mic.  Not to mention the size difference. ymmv 8) kirk

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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2008, 08:35:31 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2008, 08:44:06 PM »
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I can find any information about this?

See the pdf product  manual
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2008, 08:47:11 PM »
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But I see with the NT6 you can get a presence boosted card cap that has a curve like a 184. 

I can find any information about this?

See the pdf product  manual
page 11

http://www.rodemicrophones.com/downloads/nt6/nt6_product_manual.pdf

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http://www.rodemicrophones.com/microphone.php?product=NT6

Also look at the downloadable images.  The one on the site has a curve like a 184, but the one in the manual has the steep drop off.   OOK
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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2008, 09:06:37 PM »
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I can find any information about this?

See the pdf product  manual
page 11

http://www.rodemicrophones.com/downloads/nt6/nt6_product_manual.pdf

Peace OOK
http://www.rodemicrophones.com/microphone.php?product=NT6

Also look at the downloadable images.  The one on the site has a curve like a 184, but the one in the manual has the steep drop off.   OOK

Just a note, the Rode NT4,5 & 6 share the same Cardioid capsule.

There is also an Omni cap available for all (screw off/screw on), but this does not make sense in the NT4 due to the XY placement.

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2008, 11:07:17 AM »
well
everyone likes different flavors
while I know there are nice-er sounding mics out there
these are a pair I have... sequential serial numbers and factory matched

when I got them 5 -6 years ago
it was partially due to Charlie Miller's NT-2's on stage , after I patched out ata kimock show at the crystal ballroom in PDX

I will say that the NT-5's sound very nice on stage
I usually run them 110° ORTF on stage
and then a "matrix" of the house PA

or very close up front FOB when I can

99% of the time I am in small clubs and not in the "section" usually FOB
however when I have run larger shows they sound okay... usually ther would be others to get a patch from
but if and when I am the only taper
I am happy to own a pair of mics
I got them to replace my AT853's with a larger mic
still have those
and my old TOA K1's (which need some work)

when I got the mics I think I had the pair new for around $275
so for under 300 for some Austriallian mics that were not made in china
I thought it was a good deal
but back then I still only had dial up
and did not know of the existence of tapers Section

yes there are other mics that sound better
I'd perhaps get the peluso's or busman's now
but back when I got them for the price
they were great

personally I'd love to see some one start modding them (busman?)
bacause I know thay could sound much better

that's my 2 1/2 ¢

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2008, 03:43:14 PM »
Ok, this thread has inspired me.  I pulled the trigger on a pair of NT6's and a set of omni caps.   The NT4 was one of the first mics I worked with as an intern at a small studio.  Being that these were dear to my heart I have always been curious about them for taping.  I too had the same perception that these mics suck from a distance.  I heard some tapes that sounded funny.  After listening to every NT5 source on archive I don't see a problem with these mics.  There are not many sources with a terrific signal chain out there to listen too, but I think I get the color of their sound. I don't think there is problem with the highs, but the upper-mids sound a little metalic.   I am not concerned about pairing these mics with my Oade warm mod.  I think the wmod will warm the mid tone up and blend better with the highs...  As a poster mentioned above there are "presence boosted" card caps, and these are actually the ones that come with the NT6 as described in the manual.  Some websites say that the NT6 comes with the same capsule as the NT5, but others say it comes with a "similar" capsule.  There are also differences in the frequency response graph.  I have emails in to Rode to clarify some of this stuff...

Being that Rode just came out with the NT55 and have no plans of discontinuing the NT4,5,6, I have hopes that they will make some additional capsules, including the hyper that is listed in the product documentation.

Our community is quick to write a set of mics off on one persons opinion. I am going to give these a real good workout in the concert taping environment.  The recording studio and orchestral recording folks have more than favorable reviews of these mics....
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2008, 05:49:23 PM »
Our community is quick to write a set of mics off on one persons opinion. I am going to give these a real good workout in the concert taping environment.  The recording studio and orchestral recording folks have more than favorable reviews of these mics....

I agree with this. Not a bad thing but we need more than one opinion. I didn't think the NT5s were bad sounding from the beginning when i first learned about them. I know many people who are only pleased with Rode's mics including digifish.

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2008, 12:13:25 AM »
SWEET Murph ;D

I have those killer 2-axis swivel mounts that come w/ the NT6 package, and they are BY FAR, the best built mini-xlr holder I have found in about a years worth of searching ;D

I am VERY CURIOUS and ANXIOUS to hear how these sound, and I also think they'll be a great match w/ your WMOD ;)

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2008, 01:27:18 AM »
Yeah bean, I am real curious as well.  The last 16 hours that I have been awake I have done nothing but listen to rode recordings. I hit every recording forum on the net.   The cards hold their own, the omni's are amazing.  They have been talking about releasing the hyper for about 3 years...

What is fucked up about these mics is that the reviews are split about down the middle.  60% say they are slighly dark, the other say they are too bright.  Most compare them to km184 with some reservation.  After some serious listening, it isn't as black and white as dark or bright.  There is some slight roll off in the highs, but nothing to worry about.  The problem continues to be the strange upper-midrange tone.  I really thing a good tube or warm preamp chip came tame that.   The folks that think the mics are bright are focusing on the upper-mids, the dark side think the high roll of is the problem.  For a fairly popular pair of mics the nt5 has a diverse opinon spread.  The NT6 has noting specifically written about it on the web....  The NT6 body is between the nt5 and 55 as far as production date and features go.  They all have slightly different electronics...  I am hopeful that rode will respond back to my email.

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2008, 01:39:11 AM »
yeah, that coule be split down the middle because one is like a 184 and the other capsule has a LF rolloff

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2008, 02:39:32 AM »
Yeah bean, I am real curious as well.  The last 16 hours that I have been awake I have done nothing but listen to rode recordings. I hit every recording forum on the net.   The cards hold their own, the omni's are amazing.  They have been talking about releasing the hyper for about 3 years...

...  I am hopeful that rode will respond back to my email.


Last time I spoke to Rode (last year) they said that the NT4, NT5, NT55 and NT6 all use the same cardioid cap

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2008, 02:43:15 AM »
Yeah bean, I am real curious as well.  The last 16 hours that I have been awake I have done nothing but listen to rode recordings. I hit every recording forum on the net.   The cards hold their own, the omni's are amazing.  They have been talking about releasing the hyper for about 3 years...

...  I am hopeful that rode will respond back to my email.


Last time I spoke to Rode (last year) they said that the NT4, NT5, NT55 and NT6 all use the same cardioid cap

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yeah, i havn't seen anything to the different.  But, I have seen differences in responce and pattern, as well as conflicting information.  The website, manuals, USArode and AUrode all say different shit...
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« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2008, 02:44:31 AM »
Yeah bean, I am real curious as well.  The last 16 hours that I have been awake I have done nothing but listen to rode recordings. I hit every recording forum on the net.   The cards hold their own, the omni's are amazing.  They have been talking about releasing the hyper for about 3 years...

...  I am hopeful that rode will respond back to my email.


Last time I spoke to Rode (last year) they said that the NT4, NT5, NT55 and NT6 all use the same cardioid cap

digifish

yeah, i havn't seen anything to the different.  But, I have seen differences in responce and pattern, as well as conflicting information.  The website, manuals, USArode and AUrode all say different shit...

Look the same too :)

I was asking because I was looking to see what other caps I could get...they only have 2, the card and the omni.



...and this suggests the same...

http://www.rodemic.com/accessory.php?product=NT45-C

Compatible microphones : NT4, NT5, NT55, NT6
The NT45-C is a replacement cardioid capsule for the NT4, NT5, NT55 or NT6 microphones.



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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2008, 03:05:29 AM »
Interesting :) I never thought you could switch caps on the NT4, but in that pic, it looks like it screws off :) Omni's XY wouldnt be advised tho ;)
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2008, 08:01:03 AM »
Interesting :) I never thought you could switch caps on the NT4, but in that pic, it looks like it screws off :) Omni's XY wouldnt be advised tho ;)

Yes they screw on/off on the NT4...omnis don't make a lot of sense here no. However makes replacing damaged capsules user-doable.

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2008, 09:28:38 AM »
I talked to Rode.  The capsules are the same on all of the mics.  The NT45c and the NT45o are the only capsules.  The hyper and flat card never made it to production and there are no plans to do so...

The bodies of the NT4,5,55 and 6 all contain different electronics.  The frequency response is slightly different on all of the microphones becasue of this..
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2008, 07:18:35 PM »
The hyper and flat card never made it to production and there are no plans to do so...


Yeah, that's a shame :(

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2008, 11:32:35 PM »
I have Rode NTG-1 short shotguns.  Just ran them for the first time last weekend at Penn's Peak for Phil. Its on LMA now.  Absolutely love them.  Very flat, warm sounding.  Ran them outside too.  Great results.  They are now part of my arsenal.     
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2008, 03:33:41 PM »
my first impression of the active cables are poor..  They are really nice and sturdy cables, but they are a pain in the ass to coil up and keep neat...  Some tech flex around them would be an idea....

The mic clips are really amazing...
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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2008, 04:31:05 PM »
my first impression of the active cables are poor..  They are really nice and sturdy cables, but they are a pain in the ass to coil up and keep neat...  Some tech flex around them would be an idea....

The mic clips are really amazing...

Try cold shrink tape on your actives:

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2008, 05:52:13 PM »
my first impression of the active cables are poor..  They are really nice and sturdy cables, but they are a pain in the ass to coil up and keep neat...  Some tech flex around them would be an idea....

The mic clips are really amazing...

Try cold shrink tape on your actives:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,94049.msg1252763.html#msg1252763

Interesting, thanks...
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« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2008, 08:08:40 PM »
my first impression of the active cables are poor..  They are really nice and sturdy cables, but they are a pain in the ass to coil up and keep neat...  Some tech flex around them would be an idea....

The mic clips are really amazing...

Thanks for sharing, I assume you are talking here about an NT6 pair you purchased?

Is it something about the cable design making them hard to manage or just the fact you now have another two sets of wires to take care of?

What do you like about the clips?

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2008, 08:40:12 PM »
Murph, now you know why I fluffed the hell out of the Rode NT6 2-Axis Swivel mounts that I scored ;D
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« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2008, 09:50:59 PM »
I didn't like the cable design, but now I can coil them up.  They were just stiff...
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2008, 10:09:04 PM »
I didn't like the cable design, but now I can coil them up.  They were just stiff...

All cables need 'broken in' a little bit ;) IMO, techflex makes my Belden 1804a Silver-Clad 'actives' even harder to coil up than they were originally. BUT, thegreatgumbino made them 'one cable' except about a foot from each end essentially w/ techflex, so techflex has its pros and cons ;)

However, techflex makes them ALOT more abrasive and durable IMO, and I dont even coil my actives, but just wrap them in figure 8's and throw a velcro strap on them and throw them in my Cairn II. Its ALOT easier than coiling them up, and uncoiling them every show, especially since my actives stay hooked up to my KA500 capsules, and they stay on my DINa KwonBar at all times, so coiling/uncliling is just a MAJOR PITA for me anymore. Try the figure-8 method if they are that stiff ;) :)
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2008, 05:31:11 PM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #57 on: October 18, 2008, 10:31:30 AM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5

Thanks, though I think we all agree that they sound great near-field...  Do you have any recordings from a distance that you are not happy with?
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #58 on: October 18, 2008, 04:00:46 PM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5

Thanks, though I think we all agree that they sound great near-field...  Do you have any recordings from a distance that you are not happy with?

I've only used them for drum overheads.

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I ran the mics into a PreSonus Digimax96 -> Alesis HD24 (Using the A>D in the Digimax96).
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #59 on: October 18, 2008, 05:37:13 PM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5

Thanks, though I think we all agree that they sound great near-field...  Do you have any recordings from a distance that you are not happy with?

Note as the NT4 & NT55 use the same capsules you could probably widen the request for good band recordings for those mics too :)
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #60 on: October 18, 2008, 05:40:43 PM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5

Thanks, though I think we all agree that they sound great near-field...  Do you have any recordings from a distance that you are not happy with?

Note as the NT4 & NT55 use the same capsules you could probably widen the request for good band recordings for those mics too :)

Does anyone know if the Studio Projects C4 use the same capsules?  I *believe* the bodies at least are both made at, or with parts from, the 797 China factory.  The caps are interchangeable, but may have different manufacture process.  FWIW, I find the C4's to be a *very* nice sounding mic for the money.  I've got two pairs of these out "on loan" (at various venues) at the moment :).

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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2008, 07:49:13 PM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5

Thanks, though I think we all agree that they sound great near-field...  Do you have any recordings from a distance that you are not happy with?

Note as the NT4 & NT55 use the same capsules you could probably widen the request for good band recordings for those mics too :)

Does anyone know if the Studio Projects C4 use the same capsules?  I *believe* the bodies at least are both made at, or with parts from, the 797 China factory.  The caps are interchangeable, but may have different manufacture process.  FWIW, I find the C4's to be a *very* nice sounding mic for the money.  I've got two pairs of these out "on loan" (at various venues) at the moment :).

  Richard


no they don't use the same capsules, or body electronics.  the NT5 was originally made with the help of 797 parts.  Rode moved the entire manufacturing process in-house.  Rode did keep the same threading on the nt5 capsule, so the C4 capsules fit on the nt5....

here is an article from Sound On Sound
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/articles/rodevisit.htm
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Re: R0DE NT5 Matched Pair - Your Opinion
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2008, 08:38:41 PM »
Here's a sample of the Rode NT5's as overheads:

http://tinyurl.com/RodeNT5

Thanks, though I think we all agree that they sound great near-field...  Do you have any recordings from a distance that you are not happy with?

Note as the NT4 & NT55 use the same capsules you could probably widen the request for good band recordings for those mics too :)

Does anyone know if the Studio Projects C4 use the same capsules?  I *believe* the bodies at least are both made at, or with parts from, the 797 China factory.  The caps are interchangeable, but may have different manufacture process.  FWIW, I find the C4's to be a *very* nice sounding mic for the money.  I've got two pairs of these out "on loan" (at various venues) at the moment :).

  Richard


no they don't use the same capsules, or body electronics.  the NT5 was originally made with the help of 797 parts.  Rode moved the entire manufacturing process in-house.  Rode did keep the same threading on the nt5 capsule, so the C4 capsules fit on the nt5....

here is an article from Sound On Sound
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug05/articles/rodevisit.htm

Wow.  Thanks for that link.  Nice to see things made *outside* of China for a change...

  Richard
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