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Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« on: February 18, 2009, 12:38:23 PM »
I've been looking at old threads for some ideas on mounting so called "active" capsules. I thought I'd put pictures of all of them on one page.
Some are DIY. Some are made by the manufacturer.
Please feel free to add any I missed. (which is a lot)


http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,115867.0.html
Is the bottom two photos...
« Last Edit: February 24, 2009, 01:39:30 PM by Chuck »
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 04:57:07 PM by Chuck »
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 04:54:59 PM by Chuck »
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 12:41:20 PM »
more...
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 12:42:09 PM »
more...
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 05:41:18 PM »
Heh, friggin' awesome!!!

I just got my Senn 8040's today, and was thinking about how to mount them - the doohicky with the threaded bar, two spacers and the piece of gray PVC looks like just the ticket!!

Your timing is impeccable, sir <grin>

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 06:22:00 PM »
Glad I could help...
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2009, 05:16:14 PM »
another one...
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2009, 09:20:36 PM »
Chuck,
this is cool!  ;D
thanx for getting this up here!

I am sure this is asking too much
but it would be cool to see the original threads where all the pics came from

nice to see my DIY Milab VM-44-links ORTF/DINa "active bar" here   ;D

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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 06:58:49 PM »
chuck,
kudos for collecting this group of pix!! it dovetails nicely with the return of the AKG project. i am going to send folks to this post for ideas

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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2009, 07:23:48 PM »
Thanks, Neil!
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2009, 07:56:12 AM »
Excellent thread Chuck!!

Here is a solution that i made for the JK Labs AKG actives, it would work for any 21mm active mic.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,114910.msg1536675.html#msg1536675



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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2009, 07:36:22 AM »
Nice work Chuck!

I have not seen this thread until now. I like these small size clips.

Where can I find them? The ones from Audix are bigger/too big.

Roger

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2009, 11:58:38 AM »
Nice work Chuck!

I have not seen this thread until now. I like these small size clips.

Where can I find them? The ones from Audix are bigger/too big.

Roger

That's my set up and the clips are sennhizer clips for the k3u/me line, 19mm.  I have searched everywhere for another pair, including Sennhiezer, with no luck.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2009, 12:14:18 PM »
I like Ted's homemade solution best so far. I'm going to try some nylon all-thread when I build mine. The Audix clips are the smallest ones I can find that are readily available. I'd love to find something smaller.
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2009, 12:50:49 PM »
I like Ted's homemade solution best so far. I'm going to try some nylon all-thread when I build mine. The Audix clips are the smallest ones I can find that are readily available. I'd love to find something smaller.

Chuck,

What mm diameter are those for?
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2009, 01:03:51 PM »
19mm - 23mm per the Audix web site for the D-Clips.
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Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2009, 02:50:02 PM »
Will this not work? It supposed to fit the micro series of mics and I looked at the spec sheets for some of those and they are 12mm in diameter. Would this clip fit on the lemo connector? Or are you looking for something to hold the cap and not the connector?

http://www.audixusa.com/docs/products/MC-MICRO.shtml
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2009, 03:16:01 PM »
That *may* work for griping the mini-XLR connector on the back of a capsule. I looked at that one too. For my application I'd rather grip the capsule itself.

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Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
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Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2009, 03:48:52 PM »
The Audix MC2 seems to be slightly smaller than the D-Clip.

http://www.audixusa.com/phpThumb/phpThumb.php?src=../images/highrez_img/MC2.jpg&w=300&h=300


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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2009, 07:57:45 PM »
I checked the specs out on that clip ^^^and the mics it brings up that will work with that clip range in the 20mm range. The mic in the spec sheet is at 19.5mm but that's the small end at the bottom. So it looks like you would need to add a couple mm's to the diameter. Looks like a good clip.

What about the Schoeps SGC clips? those fit the lemo connector probably too huh?
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2009, 08:00:43 PM »
What about the Schoeps SGC clips? those fit the lemo connector probably too huh?

Not the AKG ones, the SGC's are to small.  I have heard of folks cutting them down and making them fit.
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Mics: Schoeps CMC6 x 4, Schoeps CMC1K x 2 / Schoeps KC 5G x 2 / Schoeps MK4,MK41,MK21,MK22 x 2 / Austrian Audio OC818 Dual Set+ / Telefunken TF-11 x 2 / Telefunken ELA M 260 x 4 / Telefunken M960FS x 2 / TK60,TK61,TK62 x 2 / Telefunken M60,TK60 x 2 / AKG c426b / AKG c34 / nBob AKG Actives>PFA x 4 / CK61,CK63,CK8 x 2 / AT853 4.7k Mod (Card,Sub)
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2009, 08:12:00 PM »
Here is a solution for the AKG ck_x actives.  The capsule line has two different styles, a barrel style and a cone style.  I used 3/4" 90 degree elbows for the cone style and 1/2" 90 degree elbows for the barrel style.  Drilled holes in the back to insert the active cable before attaching the capsule.  Pictured is a DIN & DINa mount.  The elbows are secured with a small screw so you can take off the shock mount and it also insures proper realignment.  I line the inside of the elbows with the soft side of velcro tape for a nonabrasive snug fit  ;D
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2009, 08:32:27 PM »
I checked the specs out on that clip ^^^and the mics it brings up that will work with that clip range in the 20mm range. The mic in the spec sheet is at 19.5mm but that's the small end at the bottom. So it looks like you would need to add a couple mm's to the diameter. Looks like a good clip.

What about the Schoeps SGC clips? those fit the lemo connector probably too huh?

i use the SGC plastic clips - i filed/sanded down the very tops of the clip to fit better - the size works but its normally a bitch getting the lemo clips in there - filing it down helped but still  not 100% ideal mount

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2009, 09:11:56 PM »
Very nice explanation and pics Ted. As you know, I'm doing research on what I'll need... ;D I'll just have to wait till everything arrives to see what I'm working with.

I like the idea of "set" t-bars like your DIN and DINa bars but I would want to have some ability to point the mics into the direction I need them. I find myself in situations where I can't get a "real" DIN or DINa which is what I used to use most of the time.

Great thread Chuck! I see you are also doing some research since there is some excitement in the AKG actives project thread... ;D
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2009, 09:18:03 PM »
i wonder what kind of min order NOLAH2o needs for his bars

i bet there are enough mk46 users to get a small order in if the price was right for other options as well
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2009, 09:34:47 PM »

Great thread Chuck! I see you are also doing some research since there is some excitement in the AKG actives project thread... ;D

 ;D Yup, I'm just giddy over the possibility of running my CK6x caps off of either my C-460 or C-480- bodies... just giddy...  :realhappy:
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2009, 11:21:53 AM »
So my mind is running a hundred miles an hour....

If you attach the mic clip on the capsule, are you planning on running without windscreens? I do about half outdoor and indoor shows. I always run with windscreens so I would have to get something that clips onto the lemo connector.

As for the CK6x caps, except for the 62's, clipping onto the capsule would cover the side "vents". Wouldn't that impede the performance of the cap? Just thinking out loud...
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2009, 12:03:38 PM »
So my mind is running a hundred miles an hour....

If you attach the mic clip on the capsule, are you planning on running without windscreens? I do about half outdoor and indoor shows. I always run with windscreens so I would have to get something that clips onto the lemo connector.

As for the CK6x caps, except for the 62's, clipping onto the capsule would cover the side "vents". Wouldn't that impede the performance of the cap? Just thinking out loud...

With this design, http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,115867.msg1549555.html#msg1549555, i have no problems sliding on a 19mm windscreen on to the ck_x caplsule.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2009, 12:20:33 PM »
i wonder what kind of min order NOLAH2o needs for his bars

i bet there are enough mk46 users to get a small order in if the price was right for other options as well

I would need 5 orders of each to make them. Someone would have to send me their cable or measure it with a micrometer and send me a pic with measurements labeled on it.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2009, 01:01:42 PM »
i wonder what kind of min order NOLAH2o needs for his bars

i bet there are enough mk46 users to get a small order in if the price was right for other options as well

you have a ballpark idea on cost? say we were able to get 5-10 people to order?

i've got a spare cable i could send you for fitting/measurements

I would need 5 orders of each to make them. Someone would have to send me their cable or measure it with a micrometer and send me a pic with measurements labeled on it.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2009, 01:12:09 PM »
they would probably be $75 each, if you could send me a cable with a capsule on it, that would be awesome. I wonder if the lemos are the same size on the MBHO's as well?

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2009, 02:17:12 AM »
I like the idea of "set" t-bars like your DIN and DINa bars but I would want to have some ability to point the mics into the direction I need them. I find myself in situations where I can't get a "real" DIN or DINa which is what I used to use most of the time.

Here is another option that i just came up with today.  It gives you the ability to change configurations easily.  I used a 3/8" flange that i got at Lowes, very similar to this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=308361&Q=&is=REG&A=details and the 90 degree angles have holes in the back for the lemo connection.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2009, 03:51:25 AM »
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2009, 06:50:48 PM »
One of our members, NOLAfishwater  http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=profile;u=17789
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Compatible with KC5/MK, KCY/MK, CCM, and CMR
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2009, 06:58:09 PM »
One of our members, NOLAfishwater  http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=profile;u=17789
is making some very nice mounting options:

Compatible with KC5/MK, KCY/MK, CCM, and CMR
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,114147.0.html

 
 

read a few posts up chuck ;)
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2009, 06:59:21 PM »
One of our members, NOLAfishwater  http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=profile;u=17789
is making some very nice mounting options:

Compatible with KC5/MK, KCY/MK, CCM, and CMR
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,114147.0.html

 
 

read a few posts up chuck ;)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2009, 10:42:16 PM »
I like the idea of "set" t-bars like your DIN and DINa bars but I would want to have some ability to point the mics into the direction I need them. I find myself in situations where I can't get a "real" DIN or DINa which is what I used to use most of the time.

Here is another option that i just came up with today.  It gives you the ability to change configurations easily.  I used a 3/8" flange that i got at Lowes, very similar to this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=308361&Q=&is=REG&A=details and the 90 degree angles have holes in the back for the lemo connection.


t-nuts, available at most hardware stores. 3/8-16 thread

nice mounts!
so the akg's just slip fit / friction fit, without having to alter the i.d.?
I was trying some pvc fittings for the DPA's, but its just too small to fit the mics.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2009, 11:59:28 AM »
This is what can be done with the Audix D-clips...
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2009, 12:13:11 PM »
Ah, you beat me to the punch Chuck!

This is an active set up for AKG 390 bluelines with the mk90/3 active cables, using the schoeps A20s shockmount and a pair of Audix D-clips.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2009, 12:17:55 PM »
Here is an active setup for the Milab VM44-link, using the supplied Milab mic mounts.  The mic mounts are connected together using a 1.5" delrin "riser" from Darktrain, and then inserted into a Shure A53m shockmount.  The setup provides a 20cm DIN spacing for the mics.



Here is the assembly outside of the Shure A53m:


I've also used a cheap shockmount, available for $5-10, for this setup.  It has the benefit of having an open top, so the whole assembly can be shoved into the shockmount, rather than needing to assemble it inside of the A53m mount.  The schoeps a20s or JoeMeek or Busman mounts can also be used.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2009, 12:21:42 PM »
And here is a similar setup for the MBHO 603a actives, using the supplied MBHO mounts.  This assembly uses a short Atlas 5/8" to 5/8" coupling and a pair of short 5/8" threaded tubes that came with some cheap radioshack mounts.  With the active heads pushed forward, it provides a 20cm DIN spacing, and with the active heads pushed back into the mount the spacing is 17cm DINa.





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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2009, 01:08:29 PM »
Very cool, Todd. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2009, 12:05:22 PM »
That's my set up and the clips are sennhizer clips for the k3u/me line, 19mm.  I have searched everywhere for another pair, including Sennhiezer, with no luck.

The very compact Sennheiser clips seems to be included with some mini tripods/stands.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2009, 12:09:12 PM »
Here is an active setup for the Milab VM44-link, using the supplied Milab mic mounts.  The mic mounts are connected together using a 1.5" delrin "riser" from Darktrain, and then inserted into a Shure A53m shockmount.  The setup provides a 20cm DIN spacing for the mics.



How "soft" is the Shure A53m shockmount? Will it provide an isolation like the Schoeps A20s shockmount?



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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2009, 10:04:26 AM »
i wonder what kind of min order NOLAH2o needs for his bars

i bet there are enough mk46 users to get a small order in if the price was right for other options as well


Has anyone tried to fit a pair of AKGs  in the Schoeps bars yet? NOLA's bars fit the Schoeps CCM lemo connections, which I suspect are the same size as the AKG lemos  (I used to run a 460/mk46 set up).

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2009, 10:17:00 AM »

How "soft" is the Shure A53m shockmount? Will it provide an isolation like the Schoeps A20s shockmount?


The rubber part of the A53m mount is pretty soft, so I imagine it would provide pretty good shock protection though I haven't tested it against the A20s.  It is far softer than that cheapo mount I have pictured above, which probably doesn't provide much shock protection.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2009, 03:45:19 PM »
That's my set up and the clips are sennhizer clips for the k3u/me line, 19mm.  I have searched everywhere for another pair, including Sennhiezer, with no luck.

The very compact Sennheiser clips seems to be included with some mini tripods/stands.

MZT 105-1


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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2009, 04:01:39 PM »
Dang.  Those MBHO's are long out the back end.  Almost as long as the TOA KY's.  :o
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2009, 04:14:35 PM »
Dang.  Those MBHO's are long out the back end.  Almost as long as my TOA KY's.  :o

Not that it matters since you need to run the mics as a system (mics + cables), but the active heads of the MBHOs extend about as far as the shorter side of the clip.  The rest of what you see in the above pic is the body of the miniXLR connectors.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2009, 04:21:06 PM »
The mini's on the HO's are 4 pin right?  The TOA's are too.   ;D  And it must be the pics but those XLR's seem way long?

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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2009, 01:24:33 AM »
Dang.  Those MBHO's are long out the back end.  Almost as long as my TOA KY's.  :o

Whose KY's are those again Mark??? >:D :banging head:
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2009, 01:39:01 AM »
Dang.  Those MBHO's are long out the back end.  Almost as long as my TOA KY's.  :o

Whose KY's are those again Mark??? >:D :banging head:

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2009, 01:41:58 AM »
For clarity sake Jeff.  Would have made no sense to refer to them as Jeff's TOA's.   ;D  But yes thanks again for the loaners.  Wanna try and use em more.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2009, 03:25:08 AM »
That's my set up and the clips are sennhizer clips for the k3u/me line, 19mm.  I have searched everywhere for another pair, including Sennhiezer, with no luck.

The very compact Sennheiser clips seems to be included with some mini tripods/stands.

MZT 105-1


MZT 105-1



Roger

I found those also and tried to get parts from sennhieser with no luck.



Hi,

They can be found here in Europe, http://www.thomann.de/gb/sennheiser_mzt417.htm


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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2009, 06:44:30 AM »
That's my set up and the clips are sennhizer clips for the k3u/me line, 19mm.  I have searched everywhere for another pair, including Sennhiezer, with no luck.

The very compact Sennheiser clips seems to be included with some mini tripods/stands.

MZT 105-1


MZT 105-1



Roger

I found those also and tried to get parts from sennhieser with no luck.



Hi,

They can be found here in Europe, http://www.thomann.de/gb/sennheiser_mzt417.htm


Roger

I ment just the clip part.  Not prepared to spend extra for the base.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2009, 07:49:06 AM »
I think that the plastic Sennheiser tripod (MZT 417) is almost for free. Most of the price is for the mic clip.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2009, 02:53:05 PM »
Here are some photos of my latest project...

Franken-Naks (Busman mod)
Busman shock (I shortened the stock shock and removed the twisty-thing)
(2) Audix D-clips (held together with nylon all-thread)

I used two small rubber bumpers to take up the space in the shock cradle. (bottom picture)
The D-Clips are really snug in there that way.

I got a pair of Busman shocks and found that they are smaller than the Studio Projects/Joe Meek shocks I've been using.

I got lucky that the diaphragms are exactly 17 cm apart to make DINa, my prefered cardioid pattern.

« Last Edit: March 13, 2009, 06:02:21 PM by Chuck »
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2009, 03:09:25 PM »
Very cool Chuck, nice little setup you put together.

Is the nylon threading you're using 5/8"-27, or are you using 3/16" with the adapter inserts into the D-clips?
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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2009, 03:35:11 PM »
Very cool Chuck, nice little setup you put together.

Is the nylon threading you're using 5/8"-27, or are you using 3/16" with the adapter inserts into the D-clips?

Thanks.  ;D

3/16" nylon bolt with the Audix D-clip 5/8" to 3/16" adapter inserts. It's the same size as the nylon bolts that hold on a typical toilet seat.
I found that the nylon had enough give in it that I could screw those two clips together pretty tight and get everything to align well.

I am quite pleased with it.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2009, 09:04:40 PM »
Very cool Chuck, nice little setup you put together.

Is the nylon threading you're using 5/8"-27, or are you using 3/16" with the adapter inserts into the D-clips?

Thanks.  ;D

3/16" nylon bolt with the Audix D-clip 5/8" to 3/16" adapter inserts. It's the same size as the nylon bolts that hold on a typical toilet seat.
I found that the nylon had enough give in it that I could screw those two clips together pretty tight and get everything to align well.

I am quite pleased with it.


Real nice Chuck!  I took your plastic bolt idea from the beginning of the thread and used it with a similar set up.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2009, 11:23:04 PM »
Nice work Chuck:

If you wanna pm a step by step so i can make the same thing for my nak setup ;D
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2009, 02:32:43 PM »
Here are some photos of my latest project...

Franken-Naks (Busman mod)
Busman shock (I shortened the stock shock and removed the twisty-thing)
(2) Audix D-clips (held together with nylon all-thread)

I used two small rubber bumpers to take up the space in the shock cradle. (bottom picture)
The D-Clips are really snug in there that way.

I got a pair of Busman shocks and found that they are smaller than the Studio Projects/Joe Meek shocks I've been using.

I got lucky that the diaphragms are exactly 17 cm apart to make DINa, my prefered cardioid pattern.




Nice looking setup Chuck!

By the way, DIN are 20 cm and 90 degrees. OTRF are 17 cm and 110 degrees. NOS are 30 cm and 90 degrees.

http://www.dpamicrophones.dk/en/Microphone-University/~/media/PDF/Download/stereo.pdf

Here is a nice simulation of various setups.

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/Visualization-ORTF.htm


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« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2009, 04:28:59 PM »
That bottom link is great. Thanks.

Some of us take liberties with the traditional stereo mic pair spacings.
Like my calling 17 cm (ORTF spacing) at 90 degrees (DIN angle) DINa.
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« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2009, 08:41:37 PM »
Nice work Chuck! How much did those clips run you? Might have to pick up some parts for the actives that are on the way.
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« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2009, 09:58:52 PM »
The Audix D-clips were $10 each through Guitar Center.
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« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2009, 11:14:14 PM »
^^^On Academy and Platte? Once I get my cables in I'll have to go down there and check it out.
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« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2009, 09:46:30 AM »
^^^On Academy and Platte? Once I get my cables in I'll have to go down there and check it out.

They can order them at that store. I bought them online.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2009, 05:31:18 PM »
The MBHO HK-1135 (98-8045)  look promising for low profile 21mm microphone clips.

http://www.mbho.de/pdf/accessories.pdf
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2009, 08:06:07 PM »
The MBHO HK-1135 (98-8045)  look promising for low profile 21mm microphone clips.

http://www.mbho.de/pdf/accessories.pdf


^^

Thanks for that.  Any idea on the price and USA availability?

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« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2009, 07:01:36 AM »
MB HK 1135 mic clips are 27€ in Europe. Audix MC2 are 9€.

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« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2009, 09:12:20 AM »
The MBHO HK-1135 (98-8045)  look promising for low profile 21mm microphone clips.

http://www.mbho.de/pdf/accessories.pdf


^^

Thanks for that.  Any idea on the price and USA availability?

 :)



Maybe Marcus Demuth in NYC? I haven't bought MBHO stuff in quite a while.
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« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2009, 04:41:19 PM »
The MBHO HK-1135 (98-8045)  look promising for low profile 21mm microphone clips.

http://www.mbho.de/pdf/accessories.pdf


^^

Thanks for that.  Any idea on the price and USA availability?

 :)



Maybe Marcus Demuth in NYC? I haven't bought MBHO stuff in quite a while.

Uh-oh! Good luck with that! Anybody know why I got rid of the MBHO's? I'd call Sonic Sense or Dan from Dale Pro Audio (better luck with Dan).
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2009, 06:59:14 AM »

Gentlemen - here's our chance for machined, delrin, VM-44 Link stereo bars.  PLEASE let BJ know if you are interested!!


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Just a quick note.  This has been setup for multiple runs, and can be done very quickly by the shop.  If there is interest in other types of active setups, I can have these done also.  If i get another set of actives measured, and setup for production, they too will be easy to crank out.   I have been assured by the shop that I can do runs of one set at a time, or multiple.  I hope this holds true going forward.

caveat..i really don't want to do a Schoeps run, as Louie has covered the extensivly and is selling a great setup here

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2009, 12:57:18 PM »
Thanks for the idea tgakidis, it worked well. shitty picture on my half though...



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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2009, 01:49:57 PM »
Thanks for the idea tgakidis, it worked well. shitty picture on my half though...





Nice work!  What is the tube in the center?
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2009, 02:24:25 PM »
it was a 2 1/16 length of PVC pipe. There is a metal rod inside that just barely fit so I could attach the two mic clips. I tossed rubber o-rings between the pipe and mounts for additional shock protection.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #82 on: April 03, 2009, 08:40:54 PM »
Better get it ready Mark, you've only got 2 months left 8)
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« Reply #83 on: April 06, 2009, 04:34:21 PM »
Better get it ready Mark, you've only got 2 months left 8)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #85 on: April 16, 2009, 08:14:45 AM »
I have been wanting to get this set up together for a little while now.  Pictured are 2 AKG ck1x Cardiods with a center ck2x Omni all with the mk46 cables into c460b bodies.  I made my own center riser for the "Robb Bar" with extra thread coming through the top for the center mic clip.   Right now I only have a r/a interconnect for the third 460, but will eventually get another chopped stubbie and a modify a new case.

I am going to run this set up tonight onstage for Club d'Elf in Cambridge, MA.  I plan to run 4 channels mono with the fourth being a mono SBD patch.  The cards will be panned left and right accordingly and the omni and SBD will be dialed in just right to round out the mix.








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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #86 on: April 16, 2009, 10:01:17 AM »
I thought about doing the same thing Teddy. Looks terrific. The other thing you can try is running the Omni on its own stand further in on the stage.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #87 on: April 16, 2009, 10:07:27 AM »
I thought about doing the same thing Teddy. Looks terrific. The other thing you can try is running the Omni on its own stand further in on the stage.

That's a great idea Louie, but probably won't fly tonight with d'Elf.  I also thought about running omni's clamped  above the stage, in the right venue.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #88 on: April 19, 2009, 12:35:49 AM »
Beautiful craftmanship Teddy 8) Super Sexy!!!! Your Active AKG's are DEFINITELY the most MINTY ones I have ever seen. The MK46 Active Cables look brand spankin' new! Or did you just re-do them or have someone else just re-do them ??? Because they look SO MINTY AND CLEAN 8)

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #89 on: May 10, 2009, 08:58:46 AM »
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,116550.0.html (top two pictures)

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,85420.0.html (bottom two pictures)


Sorry for any cross posting. 

Festival time is upon us.  Windscreens, dead rats and the like are being unpacked in anticipation of the cardioid taper's dual with the breeze...

I have one simple question.  Does Rycote make a system that would encapsulate a pair of Milab VM-44 Links mounted on a stereo bar, such as the ones pictured in the top two photos in this post:


http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,117392.msg1568723.html#msg1568723

I know that Rycote is NOT cheap but I want a one time solution to the wind noise dilemma.  For the most part I have not been satisfied with running the Shure A-81ws with or without dead rats.  Too much HF is lost in my opinion.  I will also be running split omnis this summer as well...

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« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2009, 10:43:54 AM »
rycote baby ball gag
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2009, 11:01:37 AM »
rycote baby ball gag

Thanks for the suggestion!  Any idea on the - dB attenuation - "wind rumble protection" on these without the fur and with the fur?  I can't find them or their specs on the rycote site.

All of the usa retailers selling these do NOT have those specs listed either...
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2009, 01:00:19 PM »
rycote baby ball gag

Thanks for the suggestion!  Any idea on the - dB attenuation - "wind rumble protection" on these without the fur and with the fur?  I can't find them or their specs on the rycote site.

All of the usa retailers selling these do NOT have those specs listed either...

Give Rycote a ring or send them an e-mail - they are very helpful and will be able to give you the info. you want.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2009, 07:47:59 AM »
Bringing this one back from the dead with my new version of a DIN bar for AKG ck_x "Actives".

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2009, 09:21:11 AM »
Bringing this one back from the dead with my new version of a DIN bar for AKG ck_x "Actives".

Ted - what does the back side of the bar look like, how are the cables routed?

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2009, 09:52:26 AM »
Bringing this one back from the dead with my new version of a DIN bar for AKG ck_x "Actives".

Ted - what does the back side of the bar look like, how are the cables routed?

The same as this... http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117392.0;attach=91713 ... just alot more sexy  ;D
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« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2009, 10:53:38 AM »

Sexy indeed - thanks!!

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« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2009, 11:04:53 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?
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« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2009, 04:43:44 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

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« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2009, 10:35:38 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.

What sized bar did you chose to use with the a53m? How much play in rotation does it have?
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« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2009, 10:40:26 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.

What sized bar did you chose to use with the a53m? How much play in rotation does it have?

Can't think of the size off the top of my head, but it fits like a glove with just enough play to turn as needed.  I will check it out when I get home and let your know.
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« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2009, 05:45:55 PM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.

What sized bar did you chose to use with the a53m? How much play in rotation does it have?

Can't think of the size off the top of my head, but it fits like a glove with just enough play to turn as needed.  I will check it out when I get home and let your know.

1/2" PVC tubing
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2011, 01:03:09 AM »
Full setup to follow, once I sort out the shockmount.  But for now:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=144397.0

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« Reply #103 on: April 08, 2011, 01:54:47 AM »
Nice Brian!
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« Reply #104 on: April 08, 2011, 01:59:53 AM »
pics 1 & 2 = (cross posted from beyer team thread)

starting from right to left on lengthwise photo (mics2.jpg):

Bogen 396AB arm >
Rapid adaptor (3/8th edition) >
Bogen nano clamp >
Rodau Universal Adaptor (alternative is B&H product code: MA013 by Manfrotto) >
2nd Rapid adaptor (3/8th edition) >
Rycote Invision INV-6 shockmount >
beyerdynamic stock 3/8th mounts in kwonbar-style ** >
mini-XLR cables and caps.

with the exception of the clips and cables, all of this junk can be bought at B&H, I still have the item numbers. I was just lazy and linked to whatever came up first in google for some of it.

** For the mounts, take a 1/4>3/8th mini screw adaptors and a piece of 1/4-20 threaded rod (shorter than the space inside the mount). You want the bar on the inside to help firm up the mount, but you don't screw it all the way down, there is still a small space, maybe 1mm or so. At that point, take gaffer tape and (after making sure the mounts swivel on the same plane and one isn't pointed in a random direction) go around the joint to keep it from moving under normal circumstances. Now you can run ORTF and DINa with ease.

For storage, I take the bar out of the mount (but leave it together), unscrew the mount, and leave the RA/rodau/clamp all together.

I use mini-xlr cables that are about 18" long (4pin>4pin) so I can tie them off after the rycote mount cable location to avoid stand/bump noise but that's not shown in the picture. I chose a lot of the parts (like the mount bushings) for weight and size purposes. When you hold everything in your hands, it's rather tiny and light. As such, it's tougher to get a smaller aerial footprint then this, and because of the rapid adaptor and hinge on the shockmount, I can achieve a shit-ton of angles while clamping to trees or at odd angles. Actually, with the arm and all of this, if I can't get the angle/direction I want, it's due to lack of creativity, not ability.

Note, all of the stuff in the picture is shown as screw-tight or locked in. That's the reason for the rapid adaptor on the end of the rodau. Once I screw the rodau into the clamp, the threads don't line up for a perfect level on the shockmount, so I screw the shockmount in real good on the rapid adaptor, then fit it on the rodau to make everything level and crank down on the rapid adaptor. The rodau was selected because it was the only tiny bar I could find with a 3/8-16 thread on one end for the clamp, and an end I could fit the rapid adaptor over. Versatile little tools all things considered.

Note, there is no 5/8-27 in this equation. It's all 3/8-16, including the shockmount and delivered beyer mounts. Somewhere, there is a German/Prussian engineer who is smiling.

pic 3:

This is a detailed shot showing the makeshift bar. Note the crease in the center. Behind that is a small cap where the two bars connect. I could have ditched the adaptors, but I'd have to use 3/8th rod then and that's heavier, saved a few grams on the 1/4th w/ adaptors.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #105 on: April 08, 2011, 10:51:39 PM »
Nice Page :) Are those cards or hypers?
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« Reply #106 on: April 08, 2011, 11:08:40 PM »
Nice Page :) Are those cards or hypers?

I think all 3 are cards. I can't remember when I took the last picture if it was after I got the hypers or not. The mount shots were sometime last summer. I've figured out that it's probably in my best interest to use a color coordination system (black for one set, colors for the other) now that I have multiple caps since it's just a tiny serial number that would differentiate between pairs unless I do something to mark the cables. I can see myself in the dark of a theater putting up one card and one hyper by accident....

(stock beyerdynamic windscreen on the right).

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2011, 06:47:01 PM »
So they arent labeled cards or hyper ???
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #108 on: April 09, 2011, 08:07:49 PM »
I would think that there would be bigger vents on the hypers.  Maybe too small to notice unless you are looking for it.
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« Reply #109 on: April 09, 2011, 10:48:18 PM »
I would think that there would be bigger vents on the hypers.  Maybe too small to notice unless you are looking for it.


Nope, same size vents, the stuff on the front of the diaphragm is the same, whole nine yards.

So they arent labeled cards or hyper ???

There is a sticker on the very back (you see it on the green windscreen mic) that is light grey, that has the serial number, and next to that is the model (930/950). It's not etched on, and I'd hate to have to rely on seeing one digit different to know I've grabbed the right one.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #110 on: April 09, 2011, 11:21:17 PM »
Well that was poorly thought out :P I mean, come on, how expensive would it be to have the pattern etched on?!?!
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #111 on: April 10, 2011, 10:59:13 PM »
What mic clips did you use??

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #112 on: April 10, 2011, 11:21:09 PM »
What mic clips did you use??

I'm not 100% positive, since I've had them for quite some time, but I think they're MBHO clips that came with my Jecklin disc.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2011, 06:48:20 AM »
What mic clips did you use??

I'm not 100% positive, since I've had them for quite some time, but I think they're MBHO clips that came with my Jecklin disc.

That's certainly what they look like - yes.

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« Reply #114 on: December 28, 2012, 10:52:15 PM »
heres the solution i devised for my Milabs, created the drawing below & had the the machine shop at work make me one for a 12 pack & dozen doughnuts


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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2012, 10:57:48 PM »
Nice bluelawn. Now that I have my Schoeps, I use DINa/DIN/NOS/MS/WideORTF NOLABARS and a Schoeps ORTF Bar ;)
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #116 on: December 29, 2012, 10:34:07 AM »
DIY Milab NOS bar...used the Nano Clamp and a A20 Knockoff shockmount...





Bar by itself...spins in the microphone clip...temporary fix was a bit of Gaffers tape...I guess I'll cover it in large shrink tubing if I find some...



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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #117 on: December 29, 2012, 10:45:13 AM »
DIY Milab NOS bar...used the Nano Clamp and a A20 Knockoff shockmount...


7/8 Oak Round - 3/8 16 carriage bolt hack sawed - 3/8 to 5/8 Barrel Adaptor and Jam nut.  I drilled with a 5/16 bit and reamed a for a nice tight fit.

Consider using this hanger bolt in the future - http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=32724
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #118 on: December 29, 2012, 04:55:03 PM »
DIY Milab NOS bar...used the Nano Clamp and a A20 Knockoff shockmount...





Bar by itself...spins in the microphone clip...temporary fix was a bit of Gaffers tape...I guess I'll cover it in large shrink tubing if I find some...



7/8 Oak Round - 3/8 16 carriage bolt hack sawed - 3/8 to 5/8 Barrel Adaptor and Jam nut.  I drilled with a 5/16 bit and reamed a for a nice tight fit.

Very nice. Damn that nano clamp is TINY!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2013, 08:33:36 PM »
Naiant AKG actives

Audix MC-MICRO clips in a busman shock mount holding the Naiant AKG actives.






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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #120 on: January 27, 2013, 08:49:56 PM »
Nice Chuck! Do the Audix clips grip the barrel of the connector good? Because it looks iffy?!?! I would be worried if a balloon or glowstick hit one of the capsules that it would come out...
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« Reply #121 on: January 27, 2013, 09:37:17 PM »
Nice Chuck! Do the Audix clips grip the barrel of the connector good? Because it looks iffy?!?! I would be worried if a balloon or glowstick hit one of the capsules that it would come out...

Yeah, they are held tight, but I do use a small piece of gaff tape to make sure they stay in there just in case.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #122 on: January 27, 2013, 11:47:19 PM »
Nice Chuck! Do the Audix clips grip the barrel of the connector good? Because it looks iffy?!?! I would be worried if a balloon or glowstick hit one of the capsules that it would come out...

Yeah, they are held tight, but I do use a small piece of gaff tape to make sure they stay in there just in case.

Cool! I figured you wouldn't use it if it didn't work. Do the barrels of the collettes fit in the schoeps active bars?
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #123 on: January 27, 2013, 11:55:13 PM »
Nice Chuck! Do the Audix clips grip the barrel of the connector good? Because it looks iffy?!?! I would be worried if a balloon or glowstick hit one of the capsules that it would come out...

Yeah, they are held tight, but I do use a small piece of gaff tape to make sure they stay in there just in case.

Cool! I figured you wouldn't use it if it didn't work. Do the barrels of the collettes fit in the schoeps active bars?
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