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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #90 on: May 10, 2009, 10:43:54 AM »
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #91 on: May 10, 2009, 11:01:37 AM »
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Thanks for the suggestion!  Any idea on the - dB attenuation - "wind rumble protection" on these without the fur and with the fur?  I can't find them or their specs on the rycote site.

All of the usa retailers selling these do NOT have those specs listed either...
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #92 on: May 10, 2009, 01:00:19 PM »
rycote baby ball gag

Thanks for the suggestion!  Any idea on the - dB attenuation - "wind rumble protection" on these without the fur and with the fur?  I can't find them or their specs on the rycote site.

All of the usa retailers selling these do NOT have those specs listed either...

Give Rycote a ring or send them an e-mail - they are very helpful and will be able to give you the info. you want.

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #93 on: November 08, 2009, 07:47:59 AM »
Bringing this one back from the dead with my new version of a DIN bar for AKG ck_x "Actives".

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #94 on: November 08, 2009, 09:21:11 AM »
Bringing this one back from the dead with my new version of a DIN bar for AKG ck_x "Actives".

Ted - what does the back side of the bar look like, how are the cables routed?

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #95 on: November 08, 2009, 09:52:26 AM »
Bringing this one back from the dead with my new version of a DIN bar for AKG ck_x "Actives".

Ted - what does the back side of the bar look like, how are the cables routed?

The same as this... http://taperssection.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=117392.0;attach=91713 ... just alot more sexy  ;D
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2009, 10:53:38 AM »

Sexy indeed - thanks!!

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #97 on: November 08, 2009, 11:04:53 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2009, 04:43:44 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2009, 10:35:38 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.

What sized bar did you chose to use with the a53m? How much play in rotation does it have?
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2009, 10:40:26 AM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.

What sized bar did you chose to use with the a53m? How much play in rotation does it have?

Can't think of the size off the top of my head, but it fits like a glove with just enough play to turn as needed.  I will check it out when I get home and let your know.
GAKables: Custom XLR, Digi & Batt Cables http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=133186.0

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2009, 05:45:55 PM »
What material are you using for the bar, just PVC? What about the elbows?

All PVC material.  The elbows were white but I sanded them down and spray painted them black. That prevents the paint scatching off.  There is different size tubing inside to connect the elbows to the center bar.

What sized bar did you chose to use with the a53m? How much play in rotation does it have?

Can't think of the size off the top of my head, but it fits like a glove with just enough play to turn as needed.  I will check it out when I get home and let your know.

1/2" PVC tubing
GAKables: Custom XLR, Digi & Batt Cables http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=133186.0

Mics: Schoeps CMC6 x 4, Schoeps CMC1K x 2 / Schoeps KC 5G x 2 / Schoeps MK4,MK41,MK21,MK22 x 2 / Austrian Audio OC818 Dual Set+ / Telefunken TF-11 x 2 / Telefunken ELA M 260 x 4 / Telefunken M960FS x 2 / TK60,TK61,TK62 x 2 / Telefunken M60,TK60 x 2 / AKG c426b / AKG c34 / nBob AKG Actives>PFA x 4 / CK61,CK63,CK8 x 2 / AT853 4.7k Mod (Card,Sub)
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2011, 01:03:09 AM »
Full setup to follow, once I sort out the shockmount.  But for now:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=144397.0

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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #103 on: April 08, 2011, 01:54:47 AM »
Nice Brian!
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Re: Mounting options for "active" style microphone capsules
« Reply #104 on: April 08, 2011, 01:59:53 AM »
pics 1 & 2 = (cross posted from beyer team thread)

starting from right to left on lengthwise photo (mics2.jpg):

Bogen 396AB arm >
Rapid adaptor (3/8th edition) >
Bogen nano clamp >
Rodau Universal Adaptor (alternative is B&H product code: MA013 by Manfrotto) >
2nd Rapid adaptor (3/8th edition) >
Rycote Invision INV-6 shockmount >
beyerdynamic stock 3/8th mounts in kwonbar-style ** >
mini-XLR cables and caps.

with the exception of the clips and cables, all of this junk can be bought at B&H, I still have the item numbers. I was just lazy and linked to whatever came up first in google for some of it.

** For the mounts, take a 1/4>3/8th mini screw adaptors and a piece of 1/4-20 threaded rod (shorter than the space inside the mount). You want the bar on the inside to help firm up the mount, but you don't screw it all the way down, there is still a small space, maybe 1mm or so. At that point, take gaffer tape and (after making sure the mounts swivel on the same plane and one isn't pointed in a random direction) go around the joint to keep it from moving under normal circumstances. Now you can run ORTF and DINa with ease.

For storage, I take the bar out of the mount (but leave it together), unscrew the mount, and leave the RA/rodau/clamp all together.

I use mini-xlr cables that are about 18" long (4pin>4pin) so I can tie them off after the rycote mount cable location to avoid stand/bump noise but that's not shown in the picture. I chose a lot of the parts (like the mount bushings) for weight and size purposes. When you hold everything in your hands, it's rather tiny and light. As such, it's tougher to get a smaller aerial footprint then this, and because of the rapid adaptor and hinge on the shockmount, I can achieve a shit-ton of angles while clamping to trees or at odd angles. Actually, with the arm and all of this, if I can't get the angle/direction I want, it's due to lack of creativity, not ability.

Note, all of the stuff in the picture is shown as screw-tight or locked in. That's the reason for the rapid adaptor on the end of the rodau. Once I screw the rodau into the clamp, the threads don't line up for a perfect level on the shockmount, so I screw the shockmount in real good on the rapid adaptor, then fit it on the rodau to make everything level and crank down on the rapid adaptor. The rodau was selected because it was the only tiny bar I could find with a 3/8-16 thread on one end for the clamp, and an end I could fit the rapid adaptor over. Versatile little tools all things considered.

Note, there is no 5/8-27 in this equation. It's all 3/8-16, including the shockmount and delivered beyer mounts. Somewhere, there is a German/Prussian engineer who is smiling.

pic 3:

This is a detailed shot showing the makeshift bar. Note the crease in the center. Behind that is a small cap where the two bars connect. I could have ditched the adaptors, but I'd have to use 3/8th rod then and that's heavier, saved a few grams on the 1/4th w/ adaptors.

edit: for clarification
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