Topic: Mic Comp: DPA4060 vs. Nevaton MCE400

[dbindc]

Have to think sample B is DPA mainly because it sounds a lot like the recordings of bluegrass acts I make with head mounted 4061's.

I liked the clarity of sample  A, but the high end was a bit grating and it seemed to be lacking in the 200-500 khz range.

[illconditioned]

Something about sample A is bothering me.  Everything is there, detail and frequency range.  It just sounds "thin".  B sounds more "rich" if I could say that.  I would really need to listen more, but I find A to be not enjoyable.  My guess is that B is the Nevatons, but I could be wrong.

There are some other differences as well (EQ, position, etc), but in the end my question is, after listening to 90seconds, which did I enjoy more.  I kept forgetting A was music, listening for sounds, not  music or individual instruments.  I would suggest trying a longer sample, which sounds better after a whole song.

Finally, I think someone should do a comparison of mics side-by-side, on the same hat!  I did this comparing capsules in the past (not DPA vs Nevaton), and it is informative.

  Richard

[JD]

Here are some longer samples from the headlining act, Seldom Scene.
I used the same sample letters with the same mics.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sl9smo

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lzr9tq

[illconditioned]

Here are some longer samples from the headlining act, Seldom Scene.
I used the same sample letters with the same mics.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sl9smo

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lzr9tq

Wow, that's a great clip!  Sounds like you're getting a lot of direct (acoustic) sound.  Did they come out to the audience or something?
OK, I have a strong preference for B over A again.

  Richard

[nicegrin]

I´d say B is the DPAs. It sounds more open, has fuller bass and not the same high end bump as the Nevatons.
I also guess the Nevatons are more directional than the dpas. Atleast comparing these 2 clips A sounds more directional.
I Usually prefer Nevaton to DPAs though...

N.

[JD]

I expected mics "B" to be the most preferred here, but I am kind of surprised how its evenly split it is as to which mics they are.

I'll identify the samples this coming weekend. If you really want to know in the meantime, send a PM.

[newplanet7]

Ok JD. Your comp, your mics..... which do you prefer?   

-todd

[JD]

Ok JD. Your comp, your mics..... which do you prefer?   

-todd

I am happy with them both, but overall I prefer sample B.
I think it is just more pleasent to listen too. Something in A just sounds slightly off to me. I hear it mostly on some of the banjo notes and in the tail-end of her voice at times.
Sample B sounds more open and more life-like to me.
jd

[acidjack]

B is much brighter, which given what I know of my 4061s and their 'soft boost' grids suggests that it's them.  I also feel like there's more air around the vocals on b and the other instruments are more pronounced.  The bass is more pronounced, although pleasantly rendered, in A - in fact I'd say I prefer it and that B is verging on thin.  But otherwise I think B is much better.  I could also see people saying B has that "harshness" that people accuse the 406x of, and that A is "smoother" (a characteristic I normally associate with DPA, but not with the 4061). 

Listening on Macbook Pro>Fubar IV Plus DAC/Amp>ATH M50s.

[TNJazz]

Overall I preferred the openness of B, although the clarity of A was excellent.  It just sounded a little "pinched" and narrow.  Both have their strengths and weaknesses.

I won't say anything more because I already know which is which.   

[Chuck]

I have no guess as to which pair is which.

I liked B for the openness. Sample A sounded congested and not as real on Sennheiser HD 280 headphones.

[SmokinJoe]

I have no guess as to which pair is which.

I liked B for the openness. Sample A sounded congested and not as real on Sennheiser HD 280 headphones.

Bingo.  Same cans too.

On the poll I had to choose something so I said B is the Nevatons just because I recall seeing the curve and it had a big presence hump.  Not as big as DPA with the high grids, but I assume the DPAs are running flat, no grids.

[aaronji]

^^^ I was curious about the grids too.  Soft boost?  No grid at all? 

[dactylus]

Here are some longer samples from the headlining act, Seldom Scene.
I used the same sample letters with the same mics.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sl9smo

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lzr9tq

I was unable to download the comp because I keep getting a video codec download page popping up.  Is there any chance that you could post this here:
 

http://iput.it/about


A free site without the annoying ads.

I own dpa 4061's & the mce400's and I would love to hear your comp.

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

Sample A: http://iput.it/82b108
Sample B: http://iput.it/bcff94