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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: Swanny on January 14, 2004, 08:45:22 PM
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Has anyone tracked the schematics down for either of these boxes? please send me a copy or post here ;)
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Anyone mind giving the old man the fyi on this gear?
the billbox? it's just another name for the Reuthelhuber Box... should be right up your alley old man. The N-Box is basically an updated version.
I let the kings of stealth give the specifics as I've only seen each once or twice and never run one.
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Thanks Nick I may have to do that. I know the schematics are impossible to find, but worth a shot.
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There are a couple shows up on archive.org - I'd recommend giving 'em a listen. :)
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Is Swanny moving over to the dark side? Tired of running in back? Sick of Chinese jokes? Afraid your mics will break your stand? ;D
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SARS
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SARS
:lol: :lol:
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It would be nice to go small... I get sick of hauling all that shit, just to battle at the section. Are we running on stage tonight marc?
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definitely, see ya at 8:30 or so. do you have xlr splitters, by any chance?
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Don't look too hard! Talk to your fellow global
god mod!
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can someone tell me what a nbox is?
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it is a power supply for schoeps caps that will feed a dat or A/D a line level signal...thereby taking the bodies out of the equation and phantom power out of the equation
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aight thanks
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definitely give alex a email if you are interested, he'll hook you up!
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FWIW, since these stealth setups are discussed fairly infrequently and info is often hard to come by, here's some basic info on another alternative, the Sonosax SX-M2/LS2 (Lemosax) (http://www.taperssection.com/yabbse/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=12150;start=msg149240#msg149240).
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that's a good alternative to the nbox. good thing about the nbox is u get cables & nbox for about what you'd pay for the lemosax. just some food for thought ;)
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that's a good alternative to the nbox. good thing about the nbox is u get cables & nbox for about what you'd pay for the lemosax. just some food for thought ;)
This is true! The N-Box is definitely the less-expensive option. F-ing Schoeps and their damn expensive cables.
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that's a good alternative to the nbox. good thing about the nbox is u get cables & nbox for about what you'd pay for the lemosax. just some food for thought ;)
This is true! The N-Box is definitely the less-expensive option. F-ing Schoeps and their damn expensive cables.
if the kc5's were a few bills cheaper I'd have some already...
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F-ing Schoeps and their damn expensive cables.
true dat ;) i'd say damn expensive everything.....if i could afford the caps after i bought the nbox this is the rig i'd be running!
mk4 > nbox > the "toy" > d100 ;)
btw here's some pics of the nbox if anybody is intersted:
http://www.expression.edu/~acoluzzi/
peace,
justin
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awesome! hadn't seen one in person.
how much do one of these boxes run? and how are they powered?
mk4/nbox/modsbm-1 would make a sweet stealth rig...
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There's at least one recording up on archive.org (http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=6470) with a similar setup: MK4 > NBox > D100. Download a few tracks and give it a listen.
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any tracks specifically?
thanks for the link!
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if i remember right from the quote i got i believe the nbox is $1300 which includes the nbox & active cables.
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any tracks specifically?
Nah, I just picked a handful at random, don't really have any specific track recommendations.
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any tracks specifically?
Nah, I just picked a handful at random, don't really have any specific track recommendations.
I'll give it a shot this afternoon...
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FYI, a little bird told me there is a variable gain Nbox in the works...
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mk4/nbox/modsbm-1 would make a sweet stealth rig...
That's me in Feb/Mar ;D (hopefully)
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>>however if you want to be stealth taping NOW, with a design that's been proving itself since 1990 and that is smaller than any other portable pre out there<<
it's not smaller :)
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"i'll slip you some sample tracks you'll never hear on archive.org or anywhere else. just hit me up."
those sample tracks ( shows ) alex sent me convinced me.
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taping what?
sci, bisco, smaller jazz acts,... nothing unusual.
I'm not too familiar with the AD2k, but from what he told me it sounded like the Nbox put the levels inbetween the low and high sensitivity settings of the AD2k. With the AD2k set low, levels were too low. With the AD2k set high, levels went over. Something like that.
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more importantly it sounds better than the lemoshizzle
Not to my ears. Fortunately, there are at least a couple quality stealth boxes for different ears/brains/playback systems.
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any tracks specifically?
thanks for the link!
Didn't i see you thanking Twister for a Radiohead show? That was from an Nbox.
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run them head to head instead of comparing different shows and you will probably sing a different tune
Would love to, I enjoy running direct comps. Don't know of anyone in Cleveland with an NBox, though. The comp would reveal the different sonic characteristics, yes, but reasonable people may have different sonic preferences so it's a bit bold IMO to suggest I'll sing a different tune. A blind comp I ran between the warm-mod-UA5 and V3 revealed about 50% of people preferred the warm-mod UA5 even though the V3 is traditionally considered a superior piece of equipment.
I'll have to try to track down an NBox, would be a lot of fun to run the comp! Shoot, if you're right, I could sell the Lemosax setup and save a few bucks. :)
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Good input, Boogie - thanks for the feedback. I'm just getting into the stealth game so this is all good to hear, kinda learning as I go. Hopefully I can track down a local NBox for some comps, would really like to hear these head to head.
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any tracks specifically?
thanks for the link!
Didn't i see you thanking Twister for a Radiohead show? That was from an Nbox.
yep, Brian just wanted me to check the same show as him and give some feedback, sounds like we're both on the same page.
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oh and I could give a sh*t what the wave forms look like... it's all about how it sounds!
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Just want to throw out another endorsement for the rbox/nbox. I have and frequently run an rbox in stealth situations, it doesnt get much better/easier.
There have been a very few situations where the fixed gain was borderline too low (unamplified jazz @ symphony hall) but, with the sbm1 pretty much maxed out it was always more or less fine.
I can try to dig out a few good recordings with it if yall want em.
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always interested to hear more jazz--if you don't mind!
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hey all, since it is on topic, can anyone inform a newbie on where he can find more info on this nbox (bill box, rbox) i.e. who makes it, cost, etc. thanks. i did a search and couldn't find a direct link. cheers. ingsy
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Nick Carbonetta is currently making the Nbox (hense the N). PM me for his email addy.
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what's the pin assignment on the schoeps active cable, or should I just start strolling on over to the archive now?
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oh and I could give a sh*t what the wave forms look like... it's all about how it sounds!
you realize of course the wav form is the graphical expression of how it sounds right?
i just mention it as most people have better visual accuity than accoustic..
boogie
yeah I'm fully aware of that fact ::)
but if I was throwing around $1100 on AUDIO equipment I'd be more concerned with how it SOUNDS than how it looks on paper (see anything ever made by core-sound)
not an endorsement or a knock on the n-box either way. I don't really do enough actual stealth work to warrant a purchase... my fob rig will be ccm4/m148/modsbm-1
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I must say I've been very happy with my recent Nbox purchase! Here's a pic of mine in relation to some other gear:
http://www.hoarder.net/pics/gear/gear.jpg (http://www.hoarder.net/pics/gear/gear.jpg)