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Title: DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: stvgray on January 04, 2004, 09:02:11 PM
Got a used DAP1 and downloaded the manual. Geez. It's in English, I guess, but it doesn't leave me knowing when/why to use the various features.

Surely there's gotta be a better set of instructions somewhere, or at least some tips on best practices for live taping. I tried the archives, but I couldn't come up with anything.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

 ???
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: Tim on January 05, 2004, 05:09:59 PM
what are you running with it?

Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: stvgray on January 05, 2004, 08:32:54 PM
Running a digimod Edirol UA-5 into it. Mics are Oktava MK 012s.
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: Tim on January 05, 2004, 08:41:26 PM
okay,

look up "formatting your tape". you'll need to format your tape to record absolute time.

when it's time to record make sure the input is set to "Digital"

what else?
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: stvgray on January 05, 2004, 08:51:18 PM
Well, I'm wondering about all these features for marking the starts and stops of tracks. Most tapers I know don't stop their decks very often during concerts, but should I be thinking about using these track-marking features at all?
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: Tim on January 05, 2004, 09:08:18 PM
I've never marked a track id while taping. Occassionaly I will put a 2 set show onto a 90m tape and make a track id at the start of set II but this is at home on my home decks.
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: noahbickart on January 07, 2004, 05:32:05 PM
I frequently write IDs to tape while at the show. Just make shure the deck is in write ID mode and then you press the record button to mark the track. This way the show is all tracked out when you transfer it.

Also, If you use a 90 for a two set show and want to listen to a segment of the first set during setbreak, write an ID at the end of the set, rewind to wherever, and when you are done, hit +1 and you are ready for the next set.

I think the P1 is a great deck.

-Noah
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: stvgray on January 07, 2004, 09:09:05 PM
Ah, now that makes sense!

So, Noah, check me to see if I've got this right.

During the set, you just punch the record button between songs. Then, when you dub from the tape to CD later on, those breaks transfer to CD as numbered tracks -- right?

And, if I understood the DAP1 manual, even if you miss a track break at the show -- or mark it in a slightly wrong place -- you can remove it later and put a new one exactly where you want it. Also right?

If so, that's excellent. I was hoping there was a way to use those track-marking abilities to save work later, and this would be exactly what I was hoping for. Seems like such a pain to have to sit there while dubbing to CD, punching each track number in manually during the dub.

Thanks!
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: noahbickart on January 08, 2004, 08:26:27 AM
That's right. Remember, everything is much easier on the computer. But if you want your show tracked when you leave the venue, or if you are using a stand alone cd burner, tracking at the show is smart.

-Noah
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 08, 2004, 08:50:14 AM
That's right. Remember, everything is much easier on the computer. But if you want your show tracked when you leave the venue, or if you are using a stand alone cd burner, tracking at the show is smart.

-Noah

but not accurate!!!

also, if you write a track id at the show, youll then transfer it, the id will be on your comp tracked as you did it at the show, well, if you didnt track something right, which will happen a BUNCH, youll have to use wavglue or something to put the music back together seamlessly, then track again, so i wouldne even bother honestly.....only need to do it is at the beginning and end of sets!!! ::)

whats up noah, hows the ua-1d working???
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: noahbickart on January 08, 2004, 04:12:46 PM
bean-

Everything's groovy with the ua-1d. I'm basically using it as a coax output for my laptop. Please let me know when your cash arrives, I threw in my source of Phish 7/31/03 camden.

-Noah
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 10, 2004, 09:09:01 AM
bean-

Everything's groovy with the ua-1d. I'm basically using it as a coax output for my laptop. Please let me know when your cash arrives, I threw in my source of Phish 7/31/03 camden.

-Noah

noah, received yesterday, TAHNKS A TON BRO!!!

yeah, i gave that first set of yours a listen and i must say i was pleasantly surprised, the dap1 sounds really good w/ the 391's!!!! ;D

thanks bro, and enjoy!! ;)

bean
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: stvgray on January 31, 2004, 07:34:57 PM
Noah -- I finally got around to trying what you suggest above, and I'm stumped.

"Write ID" is not one of the modes on my machine, or at least I can't find it. When it's in record/pause mode, the choices available by punching "ID select" are Write Start, Write End, and Write Skip. I have tried Write Start and Write End, and neither seems to do what you said.

Once more ... the idea is that the tape is rolling in record, and you punch Write Start?? And that's supposed to mark the end of the current track and the start of the new one, without stopping the tape?

It doesn't seem to do that. Also, the track number doesn't increment, and the absolute track length gets lost.

What am I doing wrong?

Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: Kelso on February 22, 2004, 02:22:02 PM
Tim> Are you really taping with a pair of U 87 (or whichever lese Neumann) ?
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: Swampy on February 22, 2004, 02:30:18 PM
Tim> Are you really taping with a pair of U 87 (or whichever lese Neumann) ?

I think he has U 89s
Title: Re:DAP1 tips and instructions
Post by: Tim on February 22, 2004, 04:27:51 PM
Tim> Are you really taping with a pair of U 87 (or whichever lese Neumann) ?

yes, why?