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Gear / Technical Help => Microphones & Setup => Topic started by: VibrationOfLife on March 12, 2024, 08:23:30 AM
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Seems to me that the above combo, a single clippy plugged into a Rode wireless transmitter might work well for an extremely small portable wireless crowd mic to remotely mix into a board feed for a matrix recording. Is there anything I'm not thinking about, or has someone done this and have feedback? I'd like to place the mic within eye shot in places where it's not possible to run cables from the mixer.
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Onstage position, or further away?
You'll need to post-process some delay if your mic is further than about 20 feet away..
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I was thinking it could be rather flexible in distance. I don't think it would be too hard to match up the tracks afterwards, no?
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Excuse me I presumed you were matrixing on-the-fly
Carry on, make great tapes
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Blaze on and figure it out for others to follow. Not many have incorporated their own wireless mics, although recording wireless feeds not their own is relatively common. There will be teething pains.
I'd want two, spaced apart to get stereo room/ambience/audience. The SBD may or may not be mono, but either way, a good wide stereo ambiance is going to sound best.
There will be some delay due to the wireless transmission, but there is likely to be more delay from the time it takes for the sound to travel through the air from PA the recording position. Best to use a single four channel recorder and shift track position or delay afterward to sync with the SBD. Using two 2-ch recorders is less optimal for sync'ing afterward, but easier in regards to cabling before, during and immediately after recording.. but only because the two separate recorders needn't be co-located. However since the intent is to eliminate the wires that reasoning becomes less compelling. Go with a 4 channel recording device.
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I will give it the Blaze On! test and report back.
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I was thinking it could be rather flexible in distance. I don't think it would be too hard to match up the tracks afterwards, no?
Relative to any other matrix, or in general? Sometimes syncing is rightful pain when the clocks in the two sources aren't the same and there's no definite loud noise to sync the tracks on both ends.
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I was thinking it could be rather flexible in distance. I don't think it would be too hard to match up the tracks afterwards, no?
Relative to any other matrix, or in general? Sometimes syncing is rightful pain when the clocks in the two sources aren't the same and there's no definite loud noise to sync the tracks on both ends.
It's all going in the same device at the same time.
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It's all going in the same device at the same time.
Speed of sound is approx 1030-1070 feet per second.
If the room mic is not physically in the same location as the stage mics there will be some delay.
This delay can be compensated for in post production.
If the room mic moves during the proceedings (in a manner which would affect this distance), then new sync should be established for each location.
There may also be some transmission delay from the Bluetooth. Hopefully that is a fixed amount.
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Speed of sound is approx 1030-1070 feet per second.
For anyone challenged by the conversion, this equates to approximately 1 millisecond per foot.
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Good bot.
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I did something like this last year for shits and giggles when I bought a pair of the Movo wireless mics for a video series I was doing.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BL1WN73C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BL1WN73C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
I plugged the stereo mini output of the receiver into my recorder. It worked at low volume shows from a distance but wasn't suitable for loud bass heavy music like I often record. The SPL handling was low and the bass response was tailored for speech pickup. Bluegrass at a distance worked surprisingly well after EQ but indoor jam band at "I don't need my earplugs yet" volume was a distorted mess.
If the mics themselves are suitable the rest of the hurdles are easy to overcome in post production. I have some doubts about the musicality of mics that are created for "content creators" but I've only tried one inexpensive brand.