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Title: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: tfrench on August 16, 2005, 12:56:43 PM
???
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: Nick Graham on August 16, 2005, 12:59:02 PM
No...

That's the older cap for the old 451s.
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: Nick Graham on August 16, 2005, 01:01:18 PM
Here's a pic of the ck1x cap I had:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/wngraham/Gear%20Pics/DSCF0034.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2005, 01:02:27 PM
That appears to be a ck1 with an adapter to make it work with the 460.
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: Nick Graham on August 16, 2005, 01:02:48 PM
Couple more:


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/wngraham/Gear%20Pics/DSCF0030.jpg)


(http://mg.photobucket.com/albums/v331/wngraham/Gear%20Pics/DSCF0031.jpg)
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: tfrench on August 16, 2005, 01:06:08 PM
That appears to be a ck1 with an adapter to make it work with the 460.

I thought the CK1x was made for the 460's? 
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: tfrench on August 16, 2005, 01:07:47 PM
Here is a pic of the 460's with the capsule........
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2005, 01:08:25 PM
The ck1x was made to go with the 460s, but the ck1 was designed for the 450 and could be used with the 460 with an adapter since the 450 was a smaller diameter.  8)
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2005, 01:09:18 PM
That looks like one of the first 460s on the right - has different selection switches.

EDIT: maybe not - I can't seem to find a picture of the 460s with horizontal switches, the akg site just shows the vertical style like the 480 and the 460s I have.
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: tfrench on August 16, 2005, 01:10:38 PM
The ck1x was made to go with the 460s, but the ck1 was designed for the 450 and could be used with the 460 with an adapter since the 450 was a smaller diameter.  8)

ahhhh.....gotcha!  misread the post earlier.   ;D
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: tfrench on August 16, 2005, 02:36:52 PM
Any one seen 460s with horizontal switches like the ones I posted above?
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: JAH on August 16, 2005, 04:18:02 PM
no...my ck caps go on my 460 and the 480's w/o adapter required.  I have the adapter to put the ck8's on the 460's though.
my switches are like the 480's....
jah
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: Nick Graham on August 16, 2005, 04:38:34 PM
To break down what's been posted into one concise post, there's 3 different cardioid caps:

The ck1 which fit the old 451 bodies. With an adapter they could fit 460s, which is what tfrench posted in the first pic - a ck1 with the 460 adapter.

Then there's the ck1x which I posted pics of. It's a cardioid cap that fits the AKG 460 active cables. It has a lemo connector, and will not work attached to any of the AKG mic bodies - it can only work with an active cable.

Then theres the good old ck61, which will not work with active cables, but will work with both the 480s and 460s.
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: JAH on August 16, 2005, 04:43:11 PM
ahhhh! ck1 Vs ck61  that's the diff...light bulb comes on ::)
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: EA on August 16, 2005, 09:24:10 PM
As stated by others, those are regular old ck1 caps (for the old style 450 series) with an adaptor to make them fit with the 460's. The very first 460's came with this set up stock before the ck61's came out. The adaptors actually go for a decent price as they also allow you to use most of the 450 caps w/ the 460's. I ran ck8 shotguns (best shotgun caps I've ever heard) with these same adaptors on my mod 460's.


Here is a pic of the 460's with the capsule........
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: johnw on August 16, 2005, 10:41:49 PM
The adaptors .......also allow you to use ANY of the 450 caps w/ the 460's.


Unfortunately that isn't true. AKG made a CK4 figure 8 cap for the 450 series. It is extremely rare and therefore expensive. You'd have a much better chance of getting a full set of the active caps than you would at getting one of the CK4s. I don't think you can even find them mentioned on AKGs site even. Anyway, the CK4 will not work with the 460, even with the adapter. I read this on a message board post by JW himself I think. Too bad - a figure 8 cap would own.
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: EA on August 17, 2005, 10:01:29 AM
I stand corrected. Let me restate by saying, the adaptors will let you run a variety of the 450 series caps w/ 460's as I used the same adaptors to run ck8 guns with my mod 460s for a long time.


The adaptors .......also allow you to use ANY of the 450 caps w/ the 460's.


Unfortunately that isn't true. AKG made a CK4 figure 8 cap for the 450 series. It is extremely rare and therefore expensive. You'd have a much better chance of getting a full set of the active caps than you would at getting one of the CK4s. I don't think you can even find them mentioned on AKGs site even. Anyway, the CK4 will not work with the 460, even with the adapter. I read this on a message board post by JW himself I think. Too bad - a figure 8 cap would own.
Title: Re: Is this a CK1x - Cardioid Capsule???
Post by: JAH on August 17, 2005, 10:05:11 PM
.....The adaptors actually go for a decent price as they also allow you to use most of the 450 caps w/ the 460's. I ran ck8 shotguns (best shotgun caps I've ever heard) with these same adaptors on my mod 460's.

that's how I became aware of the adapter...was for the ck8's (still have them  :D)...never understood why but then didn't really care cause they worked  :)

cool...