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Title: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: thegreatgumbino on July 21, 2006, 11:25:10 PM
How many people are running this?  Trying to resist the urge to sell the V3 and move to the 722.  I really like the sound of the M148 > V3 > recorder, but the ability to run an all-in-one box that doesn't require external power is pretty enticing.  The JW Mod 460's > Aerco MP2 > 722 seems like a nice small package that will add some warmth similar to the M148 as well. 

The JW Mod 460's need to be warmed up a bit IMO, which the M148 does a great job of IMO.  I've heard mixed reviews of the M148 > 722 & understand why from some of the shows I've heard.  But, those weren't with JW Mod 460's either.  Just putting feelers out.  Thanks.

Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: aberg on July 21, 2006, 11:30:06 PM
How many people are running this?  Trying to resist the urge to sell the V3 and move to the 722.  I really like the sound of the M148 > V3 > recorder, but the ability to run an all-in-one box that doesn't require external power is pretty enticing.  The JW Mod 460's > Aerco MP2 > 722 seems like a nice small package that will add some warmth similar to the M148 as well. 

The JW Mod 460's need to be warmed up a bit IMO, which the M148 does a great job of IMO.  I've heard mixed reviews of the M148 > 722 & understand why from some of the shows I've heard.  But, those weren't with JW Mod 460's either.  Just putting feelers out.  Thanks.



Warm them up eh? Undo the JW-mod...  ;D jk
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: bl6216@yahoo.com on July 22, 2006, 02:09:05 AM
I say get the SD 722 and run your JW Mod 460 into it. To me there sound sweet ,but that is just me. Here are to grate shows that were taped with  JW Mod 460 > SD 722. I hope that I could be some help to you.

sci - radio city music hall nyc  http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=27278 (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=27278)
ratdog - radio city music hall nyc http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=27199 (http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=27199)
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: ts on July 22, 2006, 08:18:56 PM
Yea, gg. The 722 does a good warm up job.  ;)

Or check out this one: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=26898.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: bl6216@yahoo.com on July 22, 2006, 10:13:36 PM
That is funny all 3 shows are taped by Tony S. Same rig same taper.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: thegreatgumbino on July 23, 2006, 07:50:26 AM
Tony & Terrapinj are the only tapers that I know of running JW Mod 460 > 722.  I was hoping to out more individuals that might have tried the combo. 

Seems to me the concensus overal is that running the V2 in front of the 722 is the way to go, but the difference is not that drastic just better.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: ts on July 23, 2006, 11:30:45 AM
Tony & Terrapinj are the only tapers that I know of running JW Mod 460 > 722.  I was hoping to out more individuals that might have tried the combo. 

Seems to me the concensus overal is that running the V2 in front of the 722 is the way to go, but the difference is not that drastic just better.

I think your'e right on that. I like the V3 in front, most of the time. However in those cramped quarters situations, like the 3 shows I taped above, the JW460>722 does a fine job. Nothing wrong with sitting in a theater seat, with a super small gear bag and the stand strapped to the armrest. Lots of room to move around and still a real good recording. :)
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: terrapinj on July 23, 2006, 11:52:12 AM
Seems to me the concensus overal is that running the V2 in front of the 722 is the way to go, but the difference is not that drastic just better.

i don't know if its so much the consensus as its just what has been used more frequently. Tony and I are the only ones running mod460s and a 722 (that we know of at least) and both happen to have Grace pres. granted is a lovely combo but I can't say that I like the mod460 > ?? > 722 with the V2 in the chain better than other pres (m148/mp-2/m248 etc) in the chain. Ian Stone has a snonsax now, and I would really like to run that in the chain and see how it sounds as well.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: thegreatgumbino on July 23, 2006, 03:46:51 PM
I think your'e right on that. I like the V3 in front, most of the time. However in those cramped quarters situations, like the 3 shows I taped above, the JW460>722 does a fine job. Nothing wrong with sitting in a theater seat, with a super small gear bag and the stand strapped to the armrest. Lots of room to move around and still a real good recording. :)

Yep.  The small footprint & ease of use is very enticing.  I'm especially tired of running a standalone recorder behind the V3.  Not really a big deal in the long run, but my Moe. recording in February was lost due to a bad optical cable.  What a PITA. 

Seems to me the concensus overal is that running the V2 in front of the 722 is the way to go, but the difference is not that drastic just better.

i don't know if its so much the consensus as its just what has been used more frequently. Tony and I are the only ones running mod460s and a 722 (that we know of at least) and both happen to have Grace pres. granted is a lovely combo but I can't say that I like the mod460 > ?? > 722 with the V2 in the chain better than other pres (m148/mp-2/m248 etc) in the chain. Ian Stone has a snonsax now, and I would really like to run that in the chain and see how it sounds as well.

True that.  M148 > 722 behind the JW Mods could sound fantastic, as could the MP2.  Never know till it's tried I suppose. 
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: ts on July 24, 2006, 08:14:54 AM
Here's another: http://www.archive.org/details/pfl2006-07-11.akg.tonys.74651.sbeok.flac16.

Normally I would have used the V3 in front, since it's an outdoor show. The small package is really starting to grow on me.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: jhirte on July 24, 2006, 06:38:19 PM
ANyone run un-modded 460's to the 702/722/744 ??

I am debating selling V3 to fund a 702.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 24, 2006, 07:32:37 PM
i ran 480>722 once and liked it ALRIGHT but the grace>722 does a REALLY nice job of mixing up tightness and warmness IMO, the 148>722 IMO would sound too bloated because the 722 is a WARM piece of equipment IMO

i would say try the 722 w/ and w/ out the v3 in front and see which you like better, my gut says you'll keep the v3 around ;)

id also like to run 480>sax>722 and will borrow one someday to run thatw ay
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: jhirte on July 24, 2006, 07:38:58 PM
i ran 480>722 once and liked it ALRIGHT but the grace>722 does a REALLY nice job of mixing up tightness and warmness IMO, the 148>722 IMO would sound too bloated because the 722 is a WARM piece of equipment IMO

i would say try the 722 w/ and w/ out the v3 in front and see which you like better, my gut says you'll keep the v3 around ;)

id also like to run 480>sax>722 and will borrow one someday to run thatw ay

only prob is I'd need to sell the V3 to fund the 702
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 24, 2006, 07:41:08 PM
i ran 480>722 once and liked it ALRIGHT but the grace>722 does a REALLY nice job of mixing up tightness and warmness IMO, the 148>722 IMO would sound too bloated because the 722 is a WARM piece of equipment IMO

i would say try the 722 w/ and w/ out the v3 in front and see which you like better, my gut says you'll keep the v3 around ;)

id also like to run 480>sax>722 and will borrow one someday to run thatw ay

only prob is I'd need to sell the V3 to fund the 702

i had to as well, but after selling the modsbm1/jb3/access i just bit it and am haoppy i did, i can run the v3@24/96 and see how that is as well and also just run the 722 when i feel like it :)
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: jhirte on July 24, 2006, 07:53:09 PM
i ran 480>722 once and liked it ALRIGHT but the grace>722 does a REALLY nice job of mixing up tightness and warmness IMO, the 148>722 IMO would sound too bloated because the 722 is a WARM piece of equipment IMO

i would say try the 722 w/ and w/ out the v3 in front and see which you like better, my gut says you'll keep the v3 around ;)

id also like to run 480>sax>722 and will borrow one someday to run thatw ay

only prob is I'd need to sell the V3 to fund the 702

i had to as well, but after selling the modsbm1/jb3/access i just bit it and am haoppy i did, i can run the v3@24/96 and see how that is as well and also just run the 722 when i feel like it :)

I'm thinking I may run over to CascadeMedia sometime in the next week and see if I can demo theirs for a day or so.. I'm sure there is a difference sound wise, but how much of one that my ears will hear is the question.
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: terrapinj on July 24, 2006, 07:59:31 PM
what's the current price on the 702? i think the HD is well worth the extra $ for the 722 (how ever much it may be  :P)

hoping to run mod460 >sax>722 soon beaner (just need to borrow it from Ian)
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: F.O.Bean on July 24, 2006, 08:02:46 PM
i ran 480>722 once and liked it ALRIGHT but the grace>722 does a REALLY nice job of mixing up tightness and warmness IMO, the 148>722 IMO would sound too bloated because the 722 is a WARM piece of equipment IMO

i would say try the 722 w/ and w/ out the v3 in front and see which you like better, my gut says you'll keep the v3 around ;)

id also like to run 480>sax>722 and will borrow one someday to run thatw ay

only prob is I'd need to sell the V3 to fund the 702

i had to as well, but after selling the modsbm1/jb3/access i just bit it and am haoppy i did, i can run the v3@24/96 and see how that is as well and also just run the 722 when i feel like it :)

I'm thinking I may run over to CascadeMedia sometime in the next week and see if I can demo theirs for a day or so.. I'm sure there is a difference sound wise, but how much of one that my ears will hear is the question.

oh, i can hear a huge difference, its just what you prefer
Title: Re: JW Mod 460 > (Aerco MP2/M148) > 722 Users Please Step Inside
Post by: ts on July 25, 2006, 11:08:29 AM
ANyone run un-modded 460's to the 702/722/744 ??

I am debating selling V3 to fund a 702.

I will be soon. 2 shows, same venue, same seats. Different nights ofcourse :P. Thinking of running unmodded 460's>722 one night and JW's for night 2.