Topic: AKG ck1x > Tiny Box Set Up

[tgakidis]

Ted,

Just out of curiosity, are you suggested that you will have to  for Primus?  My impression has been that they are open as long as Gogol Bordello aren't in the mix... no?

If the ck1x can still be found with any regularity this rig could give the CMR team a serious run for their money (at a heck of a lot lower price).

My understanding being that that is a big "if", though.

I have not heard any reports other then no taping this tour so i am prepared for the worst, or better in this case with my new rig 

The ck1x caps are hard to come by, but this is certainly an exciting option for current vinatge ck_x owners.

[acidjack]

Good to know. I had not heard that... I thought Gogol Bordello had been the culprit and were gone.  As I have to tape them in a horrible sounding venue (Wellmont Theater in Montclair, NJ) I would certainly prefer not to have to also go incognito!

Now if you could just figure out how to rig up the ck6x series to the tinybox, you'd be the hero of the year 

[Chuck]

If the ck1x can still be found with any regularity this rig could give the CMR team a serious run for their money (at a heck of a lot lower price).

My understanding being that that is a big "if", though.

It can be done with the AKG CK-6x caps too. We just need to develop connectors that screw onto those capsules.

[illconditioned]

If the ck1x can still be found with any regularity this rig could give the CMR team a serious run for their money (at a heck of a lot lower price).

My understanding being that that is a big "if", though.

It can be done with the AKG CK-6x caps too. We just need to develop connectors that screw onto those capsules.

Hold on.  Let me clarify this:


ck1x are *electret* capsules, and their is a FET inside them.
ck6x are externally polarized capsules, and have no fet.
Note: newer ck1 capsules are externally polarized.  ck1x are not made any more (and are not serviced, either).

To make ck6x (or any other externally polarized capsule) work, you need: 1) a fet behind them, usually inside a collette that screws behind the capsule, but this could be hard-wired too; 2) you need a polarization voltage (40-60v), either a step-up from a dc supply, or a bunch of batteries in series.  These are not hard to do, but it is more than merely connecting to the capsule.


  Richard

[Chuck]

If the ck1x can still be found with any regularity this rig could give the CMR team a serious run for their money (at a heck of a lot lower price).

My understanding being that that is a big "if", though.

It can be done with the AKG CK-6x caps too. We just need to develop connectors that screw onto those capsules.

Hold on.  Let me clarify this:


ck1x are *electret* capsules, and their is a FET inside them.
ck6x are externally polarized capsules, and have no fet.
Note: newer ck1 capsules are externally polarized.  ck1x are not made any more (and are not serviced, either).

To make ck6x (or any other externally polarized capsule) work, you need: 1) a fet behind them, usually inside a collette that screws behind the capsule, but this could be hard-wired too; 2) you need a polarization voltage (40-60v), either a step-up from a dc supply, or a bunch of batteries in series.  These are not hard to do, but it is more than merely connecting to the capsule.


  Richard

Yes, you are correct.
Thank you for the clarification.
I'm more excited about the (not yet achieved) CK-6x option, because as you said, those caps are still in production (to my ears sound better) and are easier to come by.

[illconditioned]

If the ck1x can still be found with any regularity this rig could give the CMR team a serious run for their money (at a heck of a lot lower price).

My understanding being that that is a big "if", though.

It can be done with the AKG CK-6x caps too. We just need to develop connectors that screw onto those capsules.

Hold on.  Let me clarify this:


ck1x are *electret* capsules, and their is a FET inside them.
ck6x are externally polarized capsules, and have no fet.
Note: newer ck1 capsules are externally polarized.  ck1x are not made any more (and are not serviced, either).

To make ck6x (or any other externally polarized capsule) work, you need: 1) a fet behind them, usually inside a collette that screws behind the capsule, but this could be hard-wired too; 2) you need a polarization voltage (40-60v), either a step-up from a dc supply, or a bunch of batteries in series.  These are not hard to do, but it is more than merely connecting to the capsule.


  Richard

Yes, you are correct.
Thank you for the clarification.
I'm more excited about the (not yet achieved) CK-6x option, because as you said, those caps are still in production (to my ears sound better) and are easier to come by.

Yeah, I'm not "active" on the actives project, lol.  But I wish someone like Jon would take this up.  I really don't care how much he charges, but damn, that would be a nice setup.  Not only do the ck6x caps sound great, but they are (relatively) inexpensive and widely available.  No need to run bodies, just buy a pair of caps and go.


  Richard

[Neilyboy]

This is too cool! I want a set dang it. I have been wanting to get a 'lower' profile setup running a LB > M10. Guess I will have to keep my eyes on this thread and keep an eye out for some ck1x caps..

Neil

[Dkrogh]

There is a set of ck1x caps in the YS already and have been there for quite some time. (with mk46 cables though)

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=94757.0

[newplanet7]

Um yeah, pretty moist right now.   
Niceness Teddy, niceness.

[ArchivalAudio]

super sweet1
Ted! that rock
looking forward to more reports!
thanx
-Ian

[EarlyMorningRain]

awesome looking setup their Ted!

No one has mentioned it yet, but was that Tiny Box a specially made box just for this setup?

[tgakidis]

Yes, this tiny box was designed specificly for the ck_x capsules.  It's a two wire set up providing 12v to the capsules.

My initial outing this weekend was a success but the sound is quite different then when run with the c460b bodies and mk46 cable.  It is extremly bright and needed some tweeking in the midrange.  Smokin Joe and I were recording together that day and the particular band I used for the test had a high end sound that day, ie bright cymbals, etc.

It turns out I had my cable wired wrong.  I fixed it up last night and it appears to be good to go.  Not sure when I am gonna get out to test with live music.

[tgakidis]

Sample

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=539782

Phish
2010-10-26
Verizon Wireless Arena
Manchester, NH

AKG ck1x(DIN,OTS) > Naiant Tiny Box > Edirol R-09HR(24/96)
Wave > Soundforge 9.0(Fade,Track,Resample,Dither 16/44.1) > Flac

Taped, Transfered & Seeded by Ted Gakidis
tgakidis@gmail.com

Disc 1 - Set 1
01 After Midnight
02 The Sloth
03 Alumni Blues >
04 Letter to Jimmy Page >
05 Alumni Blues*
06 Mellow Mood
07 Access Me
08 Llama
09 All of These Dreams
10 The Curtain With >
11 Scent of a Mule
12 A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing

Disc 2 - Set 1 cont.
01 It's Ice
02 Walls of the Cave
Set 2
03 Possum >
04 Light >
05 Mike's Song >
06 Simple >
07 Makisupa Policeman >
08 Night Nurse# >
09 Makisupa Policeman >
10 The Wedge

Disc 3 - Set 2 Cont.
Set 2 cont…
01 Ghost >
02 The Mango Song >
03 Weekapaug Groove^ >
04 Llama Reprise
05 crowd
Encore
06 Show of Life

* "From Goddard College" added to lyrics.
# Phish debut.
^ With Ghost and Night Nurse lyrics. With Can't You Hear Me Knocking jam. Unfinished.

Notes: After Midnight was played for the first time since December 31, 1999 (206 shows). In Alumni, Trey added "from Goddard College" after the final "'cause I got a degree" lyric. This show featured the Phish debut of Night Nurse; original artist Gregory Isaacs passed away the night before, October 25, 2010. Weekapaug Groove featured lyrics from Ghost and Night Nurse as well as a Can't You Hear Me Knocking jam and was left unfinished.

[jbell]

How are you liking the CK1x>tinybox?  Nice low profile setup

Sample

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=539782

Phish
2010-10-26
Verizon Wireless Arena
Manchester, NH

AKG ck1x(DIN,OTS) > Naiant Tiny Box > Edirol R-09HR(24/96)
Wave > Soundforge 9.0(Fade,Track,Resample,Dither 16/44.1) > Flac

Taped, Transfered & Seeded by Ted Gakidis
tgakidis@gmail.com

Disc 1 - Set 1
01 After Midnight
02 The Sloth
03 Alumni Blues >
04 Letter to Jimmy Page >
05 Alumni Blues*
06 Mellow Mood
07 Access Me
08 Llama
09 All of These Dreams
10 The Curtain With >
11 Scent of a Mule
12 A Song I Heard the Ocean Sing

Disc 2 - Set 1 cont.
01 It's Ice
02 Walls of the Cave
Set 2
03 Possum >
04 Light >
05 Mike's Song >
06 Simple >
07 Makisupa Policeman >
08 Night Nurse# >
09 Makisupa Policeman >
10 The Wedge

Disc 3 - Set 2 Cont.
Set 2 cont…
01 Ghost >
02 The Mango Song >
03 Weekapaug Groove^ >
04 Llama Reprise
05 crowd
Encore
06 Show of Life

* "From Goddard College" added to lyrics.
# Phish debut.
^ With Ghost and Night Nurse lyrics. With Can't You Hear Me Knocking jam. Unfinished.

Notes: After Midnight was played for the first time since December 31, 1999 (206 shows). In Alumni, Trey added "from Goddard College" after the final "'cause I got a degree" lyric. This show featured the Phish debut of Night Nurse; original artist Gregory Isaacs passed away the night before, October 25, 2010. Weekapaug Groove featured lyrics from Ghost and Night Nurse as well as a Can't You Hear Me Knocking jam and was left unfinished.

[tgakidis]

How are you liking the CK1x>tinybox?  Nice low profile setup

I like it.  It's nice to be able to run another set of capsules and still have the 460 bodies to run with the other ck capsules.