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Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« on: February 14, 2015, 07:12:50 AM »
Here is my comp of the Telefunken Elektroakustik m60 FET and ELA m260 Tubes. I am hard pressed to find a huge difference but i would love your thoughts. The tubes have a slightly warmer feel and bigger bass presence. The "NOS" configuration was eyeballed and not exact, enjoy.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d16g6ozhlivda8e/AADaGcngj4TX4CGkgpbd5DBGa?dl=0

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2015-02-12
The Pressroom
Portsmouth, NH

Source 1: Telefunken m60/tk60(NOS,Stage-Lip) > Sonosax SX-M2 > Tascam DR-680(24/48)

Source 2: Telefunken ELA m260/tk60(NOS,Stage-Lip) > Sonosax SX-M2 > Tascam DR-680(24/48)

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m60-m260_comp.flac (Switches between each source every 10 seconds starting with the m60 FET source)

Uncle_Sonny.m60_FET.flac

Uncle_Sonny.m260_tubes.flac

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 10:24:06 AM »
Thanks for sharing Ted.  I prefer the M260.  Do you run the bigass boxes behind them?

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2015, 10:37:23 AM »
Do you mean the tube amps? I have a field set with the portable tube amp.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2015, 06:36:46 PM »
wow, B&H has these listed at $1150 for a pair, the m60's .  that is really cheap!!!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1116009-REG/telefunken_m60_cardioid_stereo_set.html

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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2015, 07:28:53 PM »
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2015, 01:59:02 AM »
I actually prefer the m60 FET because of its super quick transients :) Nice work Ted 8)
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2015, 02:16:27 PM »
Thanks for the comp Ted! I prefer the M60's. Why? Because I can't afford the 260's. ;D No really, the 260's don't sound 2 1/2 times the price to me.

Edit: ok, not 2 1/2 times.
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2015, 12:34:47 AM »
 :o    >:D    8)........... me liky both
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2015, 09:53:36 AM »
Thanks for the comp Ted! I prefer the M60's. Why? Because I can't afford the 260's. ;D No really, the 260's don't sound 2 1/2 times the price to me.

Damn, I didnt realize there was that much price difference!
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2015, 10:17:04 AM »
M60 FET MASTER STEREO SET
Item #M60 FET MASTER STEREO SET
USD$ 1,695.00




ELA M 260 STEREO FIELD SET
Item #ELA M 260 STEREO FIELD SET
USD$ 2,895.00



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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2015, 11:16:30 AM »
I like them both as well !!  Thanks for posting !!!
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2015, 02:11:30 PM »
Whatever you do, don't fret if you ever lose the Tele shockmonts.    I bought the exact same ones from a Chinese dealer 4 years ago on eBay.  $20.00 shipped for a pair.

$69.00/ea
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Telefunken-Elektroakustik-M-760-Mount-p/9999-14984.htm?gclid=CJCA1fyU58MCFTQV7AodA3wAjg&click=18920

$11.95/ea
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Re: Telefunken ELA M260 & M60 Comp
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2015, 11:56:49 AM »
I have a M260 set I purchased used.  In speaking with Alex at Tele USA there are basically three different versions of this mic.  There are two different revisions on the mic amp body motherboard, and there are two different tubes used by Tele.  The Rev 1 board used the NOS Telefunkken tube (made by Ratheon) and the Rev 2 board uses a newer Phillips tube (because they ran out of the NOS Tele tubes).  There are some sets that have the Rev 2 board and the NOS Tele tubes.  This transition happened in about 2011.  Alex called these the sweet spot models.  Of course, if a Rev 1 model is sent to Tele for a new tube, it will get the Phillips tube, so I guess there are four different possible configurations.

I checked out my set with Alex (via serial numbers) and it turns out that I have a pair of the sweet spot mics - Rev 2 board and Tele NOS tubes.


 

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