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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2013, 11:35:45 AM »
The label on the 3.5mm jack states Mic/Line

So yes, my assumption is that there is quite a bit of gain and there is no workaround in the internal settings


Is the plug-in power on the 3.5mm jack switchable?


Looks like it is per page 88...perhaps turning it off might change the input sensitivity also...?(a longshot!)
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #106 on: October 16, 2013, 06:23:34 PM »
The label on the 3.5mm jack states Mic/Line

So yes, my assumption is that there is quite a bit of gain and there is no workaround in the internal settings


Is the plug-in power on the 3.5mm jack switchable?


Looks like it is per page 88...perhaps turning it off might change the input sensitivity also...?(a longshot!)

I went back thru and have my PIP already set to off, and the 1/8 input on the X/Y mic is hot.
I have to lower the output from the SBD at my local venue from where I run it into my DR-2d and also my DR-680 when I owned one.
I still run the input around 2 on the H6's X/Y mic to keep it manageable. I feel that the Mic/Line needs a -20 dB pad like the other 4 inputs.
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #107 on: October 17, 2013, 11:08:16 AM »
Yep, this input is really hot and cannot be modified in settings. 

Is there a good small profile portable device which could be used to pad this input?

Another question--There is an XLR Head as an optional accessory.  Does anyone know if that is also as hot as XY Head?  I assume so, because the preamps are  likely in the body of the device, not in the optional head, but I have not purchased the XLR head and have not tested it for gain.  Does anyone have any experience with this optional head?   
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #108 on: October 17, 2013, 02:59:03 PM »
I'm still waiting on the XLR/TRS head... its been over 2 months and B&H keeps sending me backorder reminders.
I feel the wait has been a bit excessive, but it will have a -20dB pad on it like the other inputs.

In re. to the "XLR/TRS head", Sweetwater called me last Friday to tell me it would be available on the 10/18.  We shall see!
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #109 on: October 17, 2013, 09:55:48 PM »
I'm in the exact same boat with the XLR/TRS module...hopefully it does come out on 10/18. Kinda crazy it took so long.
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #110 on: October 18, 2013, 01:16:23 AM »
I checked the photographs and yes, the XLR Module, while a bit expensive for what it is ($70) does have a -20db pad.

Here is a link to a photo
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/H6EXH6
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #111 on: October 18, 2013, 10:31:12 AM »
Talked with Sweetwater and was told once again that the XLR Module still has not arrived (10/18) and there is no revised date as to when they are shipping this...at least not yet.  One would think this module would have been ready for sale when the H6 hit the street?  Perhaps they are having issues with it?
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #112 on: October 18, 2013, 01:34:30 PM »
Talked with Sweetwater and was told once again that the XLR Module still has not arrived (10/18) and there is no revised date as to when they are shipping this...at least not yet.  One would think this module would have been ready for sale when the H6 hit the street?  Perhaps they are having issues with it?
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2013, 03:13:23 PM »
I checked the photographs and yes, the XLR Module, while a bit expensive for what it is ($70) does have a -20db pad.

Here is a link to a photo
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/H6EXH6

Like most new products, the brochure gets done before the product is produced.  If you scale up on these two photos, all the tool marks are a dead giveaway that this prototype housing was CNC machined.  Lots of sanding marks, too.

Probably still in initial production, though.
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2013, 04:58:01 PM »
the tool marks are a dead giveaway that this prototype housing was CNC machined.  Lots of sanding marks, too.

Old school, man.  Most just use the 3D model render in the sales literature now, no bothering with a physical prototype and photography.
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #115 on: October 18, 2013, 08:00:25 PM »
the tool marks are a dead giveaway that this prototype housing was CNC machined.  Lots of sanding marks, too.

Old school, man.  Most just use the 3D model render in the sales literature now, no bothering with a physical prototype and photography.

Yep, sell 'em air, it's all about the brochure.

There's still a few of us left that make stuff.   ;)
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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #116 on: October 18, 2013, 08:07:33 PM »
Does anyone have a Marantz 661 that they can compare the XLR inputs/pre to? Have lots of experience with the 661 and was thinking of getting one, but especially for music the extra XLRs and ability to multitrack put this a leg up.

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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2013, 12:49:50 AM »
Spoke to Zoom rep at AES today, they said it would ship next week, and had one (prototype??) there with them.  No 1/8" line-in, you have to go through the XLR inputs.

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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2013, 01:00:49 PM »
Has someone managed to test the H6 with dynamic mics which require a lot of gain? I mean the likes of Beyerdynamic M58 and Shure SM7B. If so, is the audio usable for high-quality broadcasts? Also, in case someone has gone through such a test, any chance of uploading the audio somewhere? I'd very much like to see how the H6 preamps treat such dynamic microphones.

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Re: New Zoom H6
« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2013, 04:10:23 PM »
Just got an email from B&H that the XLR/TRS attachment has shipped as of today...looks like they're finally out.
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