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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2003, 12:08:31 PM »
it seems that some people are a bit annoyed, possibly even offended, that someone could suggest that stealthing is too much of a hassle.

I won't speak for others, but yeah - I'm kinda annoyed, porphyry.  We've answered all your questions, some multiple times, and you've accused us several times of not answering/addressing your questions:

does anyone have a solution that works?
doesn't actually answer the whole question, tho...
oh well i give up. if you're just gonna try and talk me out of it rather than actually answering the original question then there's no point.

The answers are there.  Now, it's up to you to decide what to do.

i've just had some pretty lousy experiences and a pretty poor success rate, which seems, to me at least, to be due to factors completely out of my control. it is complete chance, for example, whether or not you get stuck next to people who insist on talking through the music. and there are only so much places you can stand when stealthing.

Yes, there are factors outside of your control while stealthing.  For loud people, you can ask them to be quiet.  You can offer them a copy of the show in return for their being quiet.  You can leave 'em alone and accept that's the way some people are at shows.  It's up to you.

Continuing on with my question that you've sorta answered partially above:

What exactly are the hassles to which you refer that prevent you from wanting to record with mics?
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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2003, 12:47:42 PM »
i love this thread.  it's getting as much traffic closed as it was open.

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2003, 02:25:24 PM »
cos i'm just curious as to how people actually get sbd recordings of the big bands.

Um... they don't!
European radio stations, yeah, they "get SBDs" and then broadcast them. Have you actually seen anyone with a SBD of a real band that was not ganked from FM or pre-FM?
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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2003, 02:29:46 PM »
I have heard they can locate an ALD receiver anywhere in the house in use.  Dont know about most, but I would not want to draw any more attention to myself if I am taping a show I should not be...

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2003, 02:33:57 PM »
definition of BIG bands:

basically just the big mainstream bands, who tour internationally, play to really big venues (in the thousands), charge more than £15 for a ticket (don't ask me what that is in $US), their shows are usually sold out, they might be on MTV every now and then, or quite regularly, they get articles in big mainstream magazines (NME or Q in the UK, i don't know what the big magazines are in the US), have a fairly professional official website, have probably released live albums and/or live videos/DVDs, they play at the big festivals like Glastonbury in the UK or the Big Day Out in Australia or... i don't know what in the US... you get the idea?

I wonder where you get the idea that soundboard recordings of those bands are out there, except from radio broadcasts or perhaps some jackass in the station leaking them.
This does not happen often AT ALL in the U.S. The only real band I can think of at the moment that had any American shows broadcasted recently is Metallica in 1999-2000, and there were only a handful, and it was a big deal.
But... it happens regularly in Europe. Summer festival soundboard mixes get broadcasted like the dickens, sometimes with asshole DJ interruptions, sometimes incomplete, most of the time, pretty rockin' (and that's partly because European audience tapes suck ass ;D).
Not sure about Australia.
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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2003, 07:43:22 PM »
porphry, have you seen boards of canada?  do they tour?  any shows floating around?

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2003, 07:45:59 PM »
different culture i suppose. i'm australian but living in the UK at the moment. soundboard tapes abound here. also the crowd are arseholes; well, there's always a minority who ruin it.

my main objections to stealthing are:

1) frequently ruined by people talking or bumping me (it happens A SHITLOAD!)

2) the whole routine of elaborately placed microphones and getting the right 'spot' (and don't call me lazy cos i spent ages making special adjustments to my favourite jacket so that i'd have a place to attach my mics. i even learnt to sew.)

3) not being able to move and have more fun. sorry but this is important to me.

i just thought sbd might be a valid alternative. i thank you all for answering my questions.  :)

oh, and with regards to:

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We've answered all your questions, some multiple times

my original question (remember, being about 'big' bands) wasn't actually answered until Armen wrote

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This does not happen often AT ALL in the U.S.... But... it happens regularly in Europe.

cultural differences, you see.  :)

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2003, 07:47:07 PM »
cultural differences....no....laxer copyright laws...yes 8)

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2003, 07:48:55 PM »
don't ask me about boards of canada, they freak me out.

anyway i'm going away for a few days so i won't be able to defend meself no more.

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2003, 07:50:29 PM »
don't ask me about boards of canada, they freak me out.

anyway i'm going away for a few days so i won't be able to defend meself no more.

i'll take that as a no 8)

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2003, 07:51:05 PM »
anyway i'm going away for a few days so i won't be able to defend meself no more.

I'm sorry to hear you feel you were defending yourself, that you feel attacked.  I can tell you it was not my - and I suspect no one else's - intention.  Just trying to provide some clarity around the issues at hand and offer assistance.   :)
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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2003, 07:53:44 PM »
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I'm sorry to hear... that you feel attacked

no not at all. tongue in cheek. i was joking.

typing is really bad for communicating subtlties of meaning...!  ;)

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2003, 08:01:35 PM »
especially cross-cuturally... +T man
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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2003, 09:27:18 PM »
props to Alex Herd for his highjacking of the thread! ;)

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Re:soundboard recordings
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2003, 11:05:58 PM »
I can totally understand the idea of being "lazy" about a show...  You know, just wanting to show up, have a good experience, and leave.  That's the main reason I haven't bought gear for stealthing.  I'm just way too lazy -- in that way.  I don't mind hauling in gear, stand, etc., but I don't want to spend the whole evening wondering whether I'll get booted or not.

On the other hand, I love reading about everyone's experiences here, and to each his own.  Sometimes I get the bug to try stealthing, but then it passes. :)

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