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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2013, 02:54:16 PM »
If he gets a recorder with xlr phantom power (aka rather big recorder) I woulnd't get an additional piece of big gear (aka preamp) but a PFA instead, so he can still use the balanced xlr inputs but can use a pair of 3'5 microphones like the Church Audio or Naiant XXs or whatever without adding a preamp. Just my 0'02 though.
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2013, 08:27:31 PM »
Not to confuse you, give you more options--but now that you've decided to blow your budget, and lean mostly toward open taping taping, you should look at the larger, multichannel all-in-ones, like the Edirol R-44 and the Tascam DR-680, (cause soon you will be wanting to get a board feed to mix with your 460's). The DR-680 can be found for less than $600 new, has 8 channels and does everything you could foreseeably want (p48, clean pres, xlr ins). The R-44 does the same, but is spendier and only 4 channels. There are other options out there in this category, but most are much more expensive.
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2013, 10:29:37 AM »
Not to confuse you, give you more options--but now that you've decided to blow your budget, and lean mostly toward open taping taping, you should look at the larger, multichannel all-in-ones, like the Edirol R-44 and the Tascam DR-680, (cause soon you will be wanting to get a board feed to mix with your 460's). The DR-680 can be found for less than $600 new, has 8 channels and does everything you could foreseeably want (p48, clean pres, xlr ins). The R-44 does the same, but is spendier and only 4 channels. There are other options out there in this category, but most are much more expensive.

I don't disagree w/ you but I think the main band he tapes is DMB.  Clearly no need for or shot at a board feed for them.
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2013, 04:21:16 PM »
I don't disagree w/ you but I think the main band he tapes is DMB.  Clearly no need for or shot at a board feed for them.

No need to spend $1000, either ;D

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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2013, 06:58:01 PM »
I am really excited and eager to learn and I'm sure once I start to gain a little confidence in what I'm doing, my equipment inventory will grow.  ;D  Right now though I've got to learn the basics because aside from using the old handheld or desktop cassette recorders I honestly don't have a clue and will be the first to say so. 

Sure I could have spent less to get started and I may have even taken the ol' mantra of investing mostly in your mics a little to serious! haha  No, though, I'm really hoping to dive deep into the hobby and get involved with the local scene which has some solid clubs and regional events so I can learn to use my equipment and in doing so also meet some local folks in the hobby.  Figure that'll also serve as some great practice to get ready for the bigger shows we travel to. 
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2013, 11:45:51 PM »
Damn right Justin. I'm sooooo happy you're so eager to learn. It's a wonderful hobby and I don't think ill ever quit. I've been recording since I was 14 yrs old in 1994 and with a kickass HQ rig since 1999! And I don't EVER see myself retiring!!!
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2013, 07:32:59 PM »
Dean - one thing you really have going for you is you live in a state where there seems to be a good concentration of tapers, so getting advice at shows should be easy.  And you'll definitely want to get to this festival in Raleigh next year, where virtually every set was open recorded.

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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2013, 09:09:39 PM »
Marshall - Thanks for the heads up on the Hopscotch festival!  It follows our weekend at The Gorge so that be a great weekends of music.  What an undertaking to plan and coordinate the video and audio coverage for 15 venues!  Looking forward to it.

The DR-40 arrived today! Feels like a nice solid deck, feels good in the hand.  Maneuvering around the menu's only took a few minutes to get the hang of, seems "kind of" straight forward...for now at least.  Hoping the mic's will arrive tomorrow or Saturday so I can start practicing. 
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2013, 10:17:33 PM »
Sweet man, nice score on the deck and nice score on the AKG's! Those are hot, you will make some nice tapes.

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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2013, 06:10:10 PM »
Not to confuse you, give you more options--but now that you've decided to blow your budget, and lean mostly toward open taping taping, you should look at the larger, multichannel all-in-ones, like the Edirol R-44 and the Tascam DR-680, (cause soon you will be wanting to get a board feed to mix with your 460's). The DR-680 can be found for less than $600 new, has 8 channels and does everything you could foreseeably want (p48, clean pres, xlr ins). The R-44 does the same, but is spendier and only 4 channels. There are other options out there in this category, but most are much more expensive.

yltfan - I couldn't resist, I had to pick up a R-44.  >:D 

Sweet man, nice score on the deck and nice score on the AKG's! Those are hot, you will make some nice tapes.

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chinaridersti -Thanks, I hope so!  I've been learking through the pages over in the Team AKG thread.  A lot of great information!  I'm sure I'll be asking some typical newb stuff soon. lol


Alright, it felt like Christmas today when I got home from work!  Everything I've ordered (just about) was on the porch.  The mics only came with adapters for the Newman power supply and a 3' cable with an RCA connector on the power supply side so I can't plug them into that or the DR-40, yet.  I am trying to decide if I should go with a 15' or 25' set of cables?  I'll have the 11' stand, plus I have the 3 piece 92" ext pole, not that I intend to use them together, but I thought there may be time I'm not sure or if I had to clamp on to someone else's stand, I thought I may need the 25'ers.  Any recommendations?

Here I was all pumped up and happy, and then the debbie downer frowner walked into the house. haha  I'm not sure why she apparently thought I was joking about moving from fantasy to reality with my new hobby.  ???  I've only expressed my interest for a long time and even more so after the last few shows.  Anyway, she comes in from work, I've got my new quick release clamp (649) latched on to the in-table, mics flying on the 92" ext pole...all I needed was a beer in my hand.  Well, my setup on her in-table was probably really NOT a good move and didn't set the stage for my good time to go any further. LMAO  :facepalm:  After the look, she follows up with, "what are you doing, you are going to ruin going to shows now because you are going to be all anal about THAT!!!"  WTH???  Honey, trust me, I still plan on having a great time.   ;D  I think I'm going to go get some beer now. haha Just thought I'd share that with ya'll. Happy Friday everyone!
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #55 on: January 25, 2013, 07:23:39 PM »
15ft is pretty standard for cable and that is pretty high even for taping DMB (where I know people love to/need to run extremely high).  When I've run at 15ft I was sort of amazed how high it was.  I think the best bet is get some 15 footers from tgakidis or Darktrain (PM at those id's) and if you do a few shows and actually think you want to go even higher, buy some 10-15 foot additional cable.  25ft is pretty unwieldy to handle, even with their nice cables (I have some 25 footers, but that's only so I can combine several to make 100 footers....)
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #56 on: January 25, 2013, 11:24:19 PM »
acidjack - thanks for the clarification.  Agree, I don't think I'd have a need to go higher than 11' which seems pretty damn high. 
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2013, 10:09:27 PM »
I agree, just get a pair of custom 20' cables and youll be SET!!! Glad to hear you got everything. Sounds like youre going to start out pullin' DA HEAT!!!!!! Nice setup. My 1st mics were 480s :)
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Re: Newbie Getting Started ? and Thanks
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2013, 12:45:27 PM »
I'm a fairly new taper with all of these same questions as well.  This has been the most helpful thread in trying to decide what initial setup gear I want to start with myself. Thanks to everyone for pitching in their two cents and being so generous sharing all their info!

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« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2013, 01:13:25 PM »
I'm a fairly new taper with all of these same questions as well.  This has been the most helpful thread in trying to decide what initial setup gear I want to start with myself. Thanks to everyone for pitching in their two cents and being so generous sharing all their info!

Welcome!  As everyone always says, please check your wallet at the door  >:D
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