Topic: CD to WAV???

[crobs808]

What is the best CD to WAV converter.  I am making a Live Music Website for an artist, and I need to know what is the best CD - WAV converter, cause I have the tracks aren't all cut at the right place, so i have to edit them and all, so whats the best program for ripping to WAV? thanks

~connor

[yemncsu]

Are you trying to put music from a CD on the computer? if so  Exact Audio Copy will take wav data from a CD to your hard drive. 

Josh

[crobs808]

yeah, im trying to rip from CD to WAV files to my harddrive so I can edit them

~connor

[crobs808]

I am using Audiograbber, it is working great, thank for the help anyway

~connor

[setboy]

uese   Exact Audio Copy (EAC) its the best


Raphael

[greenone]

Definitely EAC. It's the most paranoid ripper out there and will go over each sector of your disc up to 32 times to make sure it's getting the right data...

[crobs808]

well i would use it, but you have to change alot of settings once you install it, it doesnt just install with the settings you need, and i have a perfectly good lame.exe that i use for encoding with every other program and it couldnt even make it work for mp3 encoding, so im using audiograbber for cd-to-wav, and it is working fine

thanks

p..s - plus, when i actually did start EAC with a CD, it said 4 hours to rip it to WAVs! lol.  I have a P4, 2.6ghz processor, lol it should not take that long.  anyway, audiograbber did a whole CD in about 10 minutes max, and played side by side with the CD on the same system (2 subwoofers, 8 surround sound speakers) they sound equivalent.  since we are making these for computer streaming, i think that is enough to check for

[taperkat]

Audiograbber causes clicks and is not bit perfect.

EAC doesn't take anything to set up. Just download install and poof.

[setboy]

Audiograbber causes clicks and is not bit perfect.

EAC doesn't take anything to set up. Just download install and poof.

i think it does take some thing to set up

Raphael

[Brian Skalinder]

Audiograbber causes clicks and is not bit perfect.

EAC doesn't take anything to set up. Just download install and poof.

i think it does take some thing to set up

Raphael

It will function immediately after the install without introducing artifacts into the rip.  If you want it to perform true bit-perfect DAE, you'll need to configure the offsets (and maybe some other options) for your particular drive.

As the original question asks: "What is the best CD to WAV converter?", EAC is, in my mind without a doubt, the *best* DAE tool available.

[taperkat]

Yeah, I remember tweakng a couple things, but isn't tweaking usually normal on everything? lol.

[crobs808]

i have ripped and edited 5 shows now, (10 cds) and no clicks or pops as was stated with audiograbber.  i use nero wav editor to edit them, most tapers would laugh at that, but it does the job, and it still keeps the WAV is the same format and quality, so i am happy.  i will be using the nero audio file converter to convert them to Real Audio 9 (RM) files.  they should be fine for the website.

~connor

[taperkat]

Oh.. if you're converting to real audio, it doesn't matter much.

*shudders at RA files.*

[C.Clark]

another vote for EAC, its rock solid, you wont be dissapointed with the ease of ripping cd's with it

[crobs808]

yeah, i know RA files sucks, but when you have to fit 50 concerts (100 CD's) into 10gb webspace...well you tell me a better format to stream it in.  WMV of the same bitrate is bigger file size, and sounds muted

and, i dont wanna use EAC cause it wanted to take 4 hours a disk, even with the good computer i have, and i dont wanna take 4 hours just to rip a disc to WAVs since i have 100 CDs to rip, and editing each CD takes another 30-45 minutes.  I have to have all these edited within a week, and go to school, and go to my 2 jobs, etc..etc...  blah, oh well, thanks for the advice anyway, and in the future if i just have 1 or 2 CDs to do, i will use EAC, for now, I cannot afford to wait 400 hours (4hours x 100CDs)

~connor

[Brian Skalinder]

Don't mind us, Connor - we're never short of opinions here - do what you gotta do and what works for you and what makes you happy.    

[crobs808]

i DO appreciate all the feedback and advice, i want all you to know that.  and if you do have any better ideas rather than using RM files to stream i will be more than willing to accept them, however, I have compressed a 5 minutes song to 3.0mb as a RA file and blasted on my computer $100 speaker system it sounds just like the CD, so i dont know if there is any better streaming compression than that for now

~connor

[silverbullet]

EAC doesn't take anything to set up. Just download install and poof.

I only wish. I've tried numerous times to get EAC to work. Even visited help sites with no luck. I may give it another crack. It's hands down suppose to be the best. God forbid you use something else and have it in the lineage 

[crobs808]

well i tested EAC against Audiograbber.  I ripped 1 CD with Audiograbber, and the same CD with EAC...

Audiograbber took 21 minutes, EAC took 2 hours and 37 minutes.  I did CRC checks and compared the data side by side via a binary processor comparison program, and they are bit for bit the EXACT same for every track...

so i dont see why use EAC when Audiograbber does the same paranoid good job in a fraction of the time

~connor

[taperkat]

To each their own. Audiograbber never rips my CDs completely, and they have pops. EAC has never given me problems (i get pops, but my processor, hard drive, and case fan are all slowly dying.). As I said, to each their own. IMO you have something messed up with your computer if EAC took that long to extract. that's less than 1x.

[crobs808]

hmm...well every other program runs great, (audio programs, graphic programs, rendering programs, video, etc...) and at faster speeds than computers that have better "stats" than mine, since I upgrade my computer about once a month with new hardware, but since I am an IT professional 9-5, I know that nothing is wrong with my computer...not bragging just letting you know that, so you know that I know what I am doing.  (alot of "know" words in there, haha)

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks to everyone who contributed advice.  I don't get any pops using any program, Audiograbber and EAC included, no matter how long it takes or doesn't take.  So maybe something is wrong with your computer, or maybe a few things well anyway, thanks alot, case closed 

~connor 

[taperkat]

"professional" is such an overused word. Most "professionals" i know can't even change their own printer cartridge.

I've been a programmer since 1997 and I've worked in computer repair/resale since 1998 as well.

But since you feel you need to keep one upping everyone, so be it. *wave* bie.

[Brian Skalinder]

nothing is wrong with my computer...

Well, something is wrong, else EAC wouldn't be so slow.  But it could be any number of things: a crappy/scratched/dusty CDR, dirty CD tray or internals, s/w config on your machine, etc.  At any rate, not worth tracking down if you're happy with Audiograbber.  Glad you found a solution that works for you, that's what counts. 

[C.Clark]

there has to be a problem with your comp or the EAC program, it shouldnt take over two hours to rip a disc, it should take 10 min.  i use 2.0ghz celeron, 512mb ram and 40gb HD on a laptop, it took 18 min to rip a disc that i thought wouldnt get one track off of, and i got 17 of 18 tracks with tons of error correction.  so i would investigate why your comp is running so slow using EAC

[crobs808]

it was EAC, i had the highest quality settings on, and it still sucked.  I have a kick ass computer, so i know it isnt that.  I even ran it on my server computer which is a dual processor (2) amd-64fx chips each with 1.5mb cache and 3.0ghz each, and it still ran slow as hell with the settings I wanted it to have, multi pass, good quality, etc...oh well. since my site is all up and sounds great using audoigrabber and nero to convert to RM files, I am fine.  Check it out.. http://www.concretepie.com/

~connor

[crobs808]

wait...someone took away my ticket becuase i use audiograbber instead of EAC? lol....how lame this is

~connor

[taperkat]

no, they could have read the other thread and taken it away. anything's possible.

[crobs808]

either way, i dont deserve to have tickets taken away from me, i never did anything wrong

[taperkat]

*shrug* who cares? tickets are just tickets. they don't translate to real life. If you let it bug you, you definitely have more issues than your computer

[crobs808]

i really dont care, it may have sounded like i did, but you cannot hear my tone of voice and see that i am basically laughing that people take the time to take away "tickets" and all, lol, oh well, funny

[Sean Gallemore]

either way, i dont deserve to have tickets taken away from me, i never did anything wrong

normally I would -T you for caring about tickets but you are new(er) so a + for getting things going in the right direction

[crobs808]

kinda funny, iw ent from -1 to -15 in a matter of 10 minutes...hmm, someone has a vendetta for me it seems weird, considering nobody has told me what i did wrong except apparently use audiograbber instead of EAC haha

[Sean Gallemore]

if I were to -T one for anything other than complaining about -Ts, it would be because you acted like a fuggin 14 year old girl when you told Creek off for no reason

[greenone]

Connor, I really don't see where you're getting that impression. All I saw was him saying that he would be archiving to DVD on his new (that is, new to HIM) computer. I'd venture to say you completely misinterpreted his post. I don't think anyone has a vendetta, they just see you coming in here as a new user and making yourself look bad by attacking people for no apparent reason.

--Dave

[crobs808]

etc...etc...etc.... damn, too much drama for a stupid online message board, lighten up people! relax, have some fun, jeez, don't be so up tight, and all. 

[greenone]

What it boils down to is, most of us are friends here. If you come in and act like a dick to a friend, you get called on it. This is one of the least uptight places I've been, but to show up and tell people how to act, and claim that folks on here have no social lives and have something to prove, it doesn't go over well, especially to complain about how you're treated after telling off people who have been around for a while. Lay low for a bit, hang out...I'm not saying there aren't assholes on the board, but by and large, folks are friendly as long as you don't jump down their throats.

[Brian Skalinder]

I said it before, and I'll say it again:  you're being a jackass, Connor.

sorry for explosing the truth about Creek, but he thought he was hot potatoes just for having an outdated computer.  there was no other motivation to his post than to tell everyone what he had and how "cool" he was for having it.

How could you *possibly* know his motivation for making the post?  Now you're being a presumptuous jackass.

it is lame that people have to do that cause they have no real social life and have to get on here to try and prove something, and fill that void....sad.

So lemme get this straight - not only are you presuming to know CF's posting motivations, but you're also judging him?  Now you're being a presumptuous, judgemental jackass.

Cut it out.

[Brian Skalinder]

lighten up people! relax, have some fun, jeez, don't be so up tight, and all.

If one isn't acting like a jackass, we're one of the loosest, most fun online communities around.  Act like a jackass, and you'll get called on it. Simple, really.

[creekfreak]

sorry for explosing the truth about Creek, but he thought he was hot potatoes just for having an outdated computer.  there was no other motivation to his post than to tell everyone what he had and how "cool" he was for having it.

it is lame that people have to do that cause they have no real social life and have to get on here to try and prove something, and fill that void....sad.

~connor

it is lame that people have to do that cause they have no real social life and have to get on here to try and prove something, and fill that void....sad.

wow, this explains most of your posts perfectly

[Sean Gallemore]

I said it before, and I'll say it again:  you're being a jackass, Connor.

sorry for explosing the truth about Creek, but he thought he was hot potatoes just for having an outdated computer.  there was no other motivation to his post than to tell everyone what he had and how "cool" he was for having it.

How could you *possibly* know his motivation for making the post?  Now you're being a presumptuous jackass.

it is lame that people have to do that cause they have no real social life and have to get on here to try and prove something, and fill that void....sad.

So lemme get this straight - not only are you presuming to know CF's posting motivations, but you're also judging him?  Now you're being a presumptuous, judgemental jackass.

Cut it out.

damn when the fug did we get such Nazi Mods?  :troll:

[Sean Gallemore]

DOUCHE BAG

[Brian]

lots of funny in this thread.

Skalinder - been really enjoying your posts lately, especially over at BT.etree.org .... if only everyone could see hte light like you my friend

[Brian]

wtf is this thread about anyway?

something about DAE i think

[Sean Gallemore]

I still use CDex

[Brian]

that's sweet schwill cause that's the program i use to encode mp3's of all the shows i get from you guys so i can pass it on more conveinently to people ignorant of lossless compression

DERRRRRPPPPPS!

[Sean Gallemore]

:-x

[Brian Skalinder]

Skalinder - been really enjoying your posts lately, especially over at BT.etree.org .... if only everyone could see hte light like you my friend

You're very kind.  What can I say?  I've been bored and unmotivated at work since I've decided to quit on-the-spot in Aug after my 3-week vacation.  So I needed some entertainment.  Educating people about their idiocy is mildly entertaining, for a while anyway. 

[taperkat]

schwill - you know it is illegal to post that on the internet and the FBI has agreements with major search engines and stuff (i.e. google image search) who sends out things called "spiders" to search for new content, and if they find you posting someone's signature you could get fined $25,000+ and possibly get jail time....so who is the idiot? good one

~connor

You know, I'm usually not one to say this.. but Prove it

I'd LOVE to see documentation on this one. I know of websites that post names, addresses, phone numbers, emails, blood types, pictures, etc, that are up with no threats.

[taperkat]

The only hitch to that is that you have to be a member of this board to read it. The posts are locked to outside content.

Therefore, your argument doesn't hold water in this situation.

As I said, proof is the only solid determining factor. You have none, so you lose the argument on that alone, but even then, the fact you *must be a member of the boards to read them* is just the key in the padlock. Don't be naive in thinking I'm not going to bash a hole in your argument with a ten foot pole. (debate for 4 years of high school, 6 semesters in college on scholarship. heh.) It has more leaks than a colander.

I wonder if Bob's signed up to read these boards to see how an "official representative" of his is bashing the people he wants help from so much. I've met him twice and it was very evident that he didn't take kindly to assholes.

(irony: #420 post. and I'm only high on cold medicine. damnit.)

[crobs808]

actually spiders can pick up protected content, so google image search will only see the thumbnail, and not the whole thing since you WOULD have to login, but even if they couldnt pick it up, does that make it legal? the answer is NO....you need to think before you speak, how many times do i have to tell people that 

~connor

[Sean Gallemore]

schwill - you know it is illegal to post that on the internet and the FBI has agreements with major search engines and stuff (i.e. google image search) who sends out things called "spiders" to search for new content, and if they find you posting someone's signature you could get fined $25,000+ and possibly get jail time....so who is the idiot? good one

~connor

I actually got it from a google image search, and it's not hosted here.

[taperkat]

Think before you speak... so is posting live music without permission of the taper legal, especially if you're going to make money off it?

Technically, according to the RIAA, posting ANY live music on the internet is illegal. Just an FYI for you, since you're so hung up on legalities and whatnot. Unless you're planning to pay royalties on every single download.

[taperkat]

Think before you speak... so is posting live music without permission of the taper legal, especially if you're going to make money off it?

Technically, according to the RIAA, posting ANY live music on the internet is illegal. Just an FYI for you, since you're so hung up on legalities and whatnot. Unless you're planning to pay royalties on every single download.

what are you talking about!!! #1 - the site i am making for "bob schneider" i am working on with bob shneider directly, lol....he gets all the money from our sales, and the site was half his idea,

#2 - there are no tapers shows, they are all from cd's recorded by his sound guy travis, and...

#3 - there isnt anything to download, just streamable thru realplayer so you can decide if you like the music enough to buy the CD, lol...you are so ignorant, this is the kind of stuff that keeps me laughing

~connor

You know, you should be metaquoted, along with the entire fiasco of what went down, and we'll see who's laughing then.....

or maybe a mock_the_stupid post instead.

Carry on, this is entertaining.

[taperkat]

"you all" = hm, talking down to the people who tape "your bob" in the first place.

[taperkat]

That's funny, I've taped him every time I've seen him, which was back in 2000, 2001, 2002. But then I decided his sets sounded the same every time and I didn't feel like seeing him anymore. I've promoted 24 shows of his, including 2 years of SXSW.

YAY! You're LEAVING!  don't let the door hit your head ass on the way out. :waves:

[Sean Gallemore]

Think before you speak... so is posting live music without permission of the taper legal, especially if you're going to make money off it?

Technically, according to the RIAA, posting ANY live music on the internet is illegal. Just an FYI for you, since you're so hung up on legalities and whatnot. Unless you're planning to pay royalties on every single download.

#2 - there are no tapers shows, they are all from cd's recorded by his sound guy travis, and...

maybe there are no tapers for a reason

[taperkat]

the duck raises an excellent point.

bonus +t if you can name the comic that's from

[AT853rxwh]

"professional" is such an overused word. Most "professionals" i know can't even change their own printer cartridge.

I've been a programmer since 1997 and I've worked in computer repair/resale since 1998 as well.

But since you feel you need to keep one upping everyone, so be it. *wave* bie.

Oooh a rare one, a coder chick... cool...

[AT853rxwh]

you want me to call the FBI and ask for a copy of their confidentially signed agreement with thousands of companies? gimme a break.  do you really think that you can own a business as big as goolge, yahoo, microsoft, etc...without being regulated by governmental agencies?  don;t tell me you are that naive. please.

~connor

Used to work for the LARGEST Net provider and guess what?  Even the feds had to get COURT ORDERS for ANY info...  Lets see the regulation of which you speak... Oh yeah, google blocks that cuz the feds told em too...

Damn, where the hell is my tinfoil hat?

[setboy]

wow this is better then TV

but i think i missed some thingwhat did Schwillaby do?

Raphael

[Sean Gallemore]

wow this is better then TV

but i think i missed some thingwhat did Schwillaby do?

Raphael

wuh, me?

[taperkat]

Couldn't be because using tapers shows skirts some kind of legality, could it?

Irony.