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when archiving/posting to LMA or BT i usually _____

create a ffp file for flacs
28 (43.8%)
create a md5 checksum for flacs
12 (18.8%)
both
24 (37.5%)

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flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« on: October 24, 2006, 01:05:15 PM »
i searched the forums and didn't see this discussed too much. i am curious what everyone is doing with there flacs and why. i am currently only creating an ffp file for my flacs. i have read on etree how it is really an area of grey whether it is necessary or overkill to also create a md5 checksum for recordings. i fall into the category that feels it's overkill.

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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 01:07:06 PM »
I only do ffp
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 01:09:57 PM »
after creating this i realized probably nobody only creates a md5, but i'm not entirely certain.

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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 01:13:04 PM »
I do both, better safe than sorry.

Also, it just seems easier to run a MD5 check than to compare 2 FFP files.
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 01:13:26 PM »
I do both, but I agree it's complete overkill.  The only reason I do it was that I've had at least one LMA admin insist I include both, not because it made any real sense, but because the band's policy required the md5's.  It only takes a few seconds to create the md5 file, so I just do it as routine to prevent further issues with my uploads going public.  IMO, only the FFP is necessary when seeding FLACs.
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 01:19:19 PM »
is there a utility that will create an md5 of a .wav file bigger than 2gb?  my mkw chokes on them.  does everyones?

xACT 1.58 (our own Scott Brown's nifty little creation)

It will do everything you could possibly want. Encode/Decode, creates FFP and MD5s, fixes SBEs, etc. It also works with both FLAC and SHN.
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 01:23:12 PM »
only ffp
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 01:24:26 PM »
+Ts may be a bit premature, as I think this may be a Mac only program.

Anyone know for sure?
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2006, 01:48:19 PM »
+Ts may be a bit premature, as I think this may be a Mac only program.

Anyone know for sure?

Windows version is available too:
http://crush.epix.net/~scb/index.php

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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2006, 01:51:13 PM »
I do FFPs and WAV MD5s for my FLAC sets offered to BT, etc.

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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2006, 02:03:40 PM »
I generally only create an md5. It does the job, it's easy to do, and makes it easy to verify the files.

I'm fairly certain archive.org creates an ffp file for you when you upload a show.

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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2006, 02:10:10 PM »
i started only doing FFP but after trying to verify a few shows, I found its much easier to check with an MD5 so i'm doing both now.
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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2006, 02:43:04 PM »
after creating this i realized probably nobody only creates a md5, but i'm not entirely certain.

i only create an md5.

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Re: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2006, 05:34:19 PM »
xACT for Mac only creates ffp's for FLACs, so that's all I do (well, it does shntool md5's but not whole-file md5's). I'm anal about checking my LMA uploads anyway, so even without the md5 I can still tell if something failed because the mp3/oggs didn't derive.
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