Topic: flac ffp vs. md5 checksum

[blu666z]

I only create an MD5 file.  No automatic way to verify using an FFP.

-Kevin

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I only create an MD5 file.  No automatic way to verify using an FFP.

-Kevin

I think TLH does this...

T

[dhora]

I do both ffp and .md5

It's easier to check the .md5 and I also include an .md5 of the original .wav files.

[blu666z]

I think TLH does this...

T

TLH?

[terrapinj]

I think TLH does this...

T

TLH?

Trader's Little Helper

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I think TLH does this...

T

TLH?

Trader's Little Helper:  http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/

[taper420]

xACT for Mac only creates ffp's for FLACs, so that's all I do (well, it does shntool md5's but not whole-file md5's).

Actually it does, I believe if you choose shntool md5 and then cancel it (when choosing the files), the next time you press it, it will ask shntool md5 or traditional instead of fingerprint or shntool..... so cancel first, then try again.

I usually do both, and after reading this thread, I'm always gonna do both..... It hardly takes any extra effort, and different people have different preferences, so why not facilitate both? I didn't even realize md5s were easier to check.. huh.

[greenone]

xACT for Mac only creates ffp's for FLACs, so that's all I do (well, it does shntool md5's but not whole-file md5's).

Actually it does, I believe if you choose shntool md5 and then cancel it (when choosing the files), the next time you press it, it will ask shntool md5 or traditional instead of fingerprint or shntool..... so cancel first, then try again.

I usually do both, and after reading this thread, I'm always gonna do both..... It hardly takes any extra effort, and different people have different preferences, so why not facilitate both? I didn't even realize md5s were easier to check.. huh.

Whoa! I had no idea...very cool! +T for the tip.

[svenkid]

md5 only! 

[newplanet7]

I am bumping this because I see md5's with flac file sets as useless because if you change a tag
 which has nothing to do with the files integrity, the md5 will fail.

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[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I am bumping this because I see md5's with flac file sets as useless because if you change a tag
 which has nothing to do with the files integrity, the md5 will fail.

Views?

This probably came up on that MMW source on BT??? 

I agree that MD5s for FLACs are (almost) useless as a change in Tags makes the MD5 bunk...  I use FFPs and verify them in TLH...

Terry

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

I am bumping this because I see md5's with flac file sets as useless because if you change a tag
 which has nothing to do with the files integrity, the md5 will fail.

Views?

This probably came up on that MMW source on BT??? 

I agree that MD5s for FLACs are (almost) useless as a change in Tags makes the MD5 bunk...  I use FFPs and verify them in TLH...

Terry

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=550492#startcomments

I actually found this Topic when I searched:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=145610.msg1873279#msg1873279

Terry

[Craig T]

the only time I add md5's to FLAC filesets is when required for upload to LMA.  they are a total waste, IMO.

[newplanet7]

I am bumping this because I see md5's with flac file sets as useless because if you change a tag
 which has nothing to do with the files integrity, the md5 will fail.

Views?

This probably came up on that MMW source on BT??? 

I agree that MD5s for FLACs are (almost) useless as a change in Tags makes the MD5 bunk...  I use FFPs and verify them in TLH...

Terry

Yep. I am in the Shack Project with duggy.
He does things in the audio realm and has no clue why sometimes. 

Another thing that grabs me is when people use an md5 file for a file set and include the txt file. 
One little change to the txt and the md5 fails. Pretty big mistake when setlists are incorrect a good percentage of the time.
I've seen people leave the set-list blank in the txt file and still include it in the md5!
HELLO, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THERE?

[vanark]

the only time I add md5's to FLAC filesets is when required for upload to LMA.  they are a total waste, IMO.

They are not required for LMA upload as far as I know.  In fact, I uploaded a set the other day without either an FFP or md5 - FLACs + txt file only.  The LMA creates its own ffp anyway.

The only thing I use md5's for is when copying WAV files off of my recorder media to my hard drive.  I create an md5 on the card and copy it along with the WAV so I can make sure no corruption occurred.  Otherwise, in my opinion, md5's are not worth anything and are inferior to ffp's for the reason's mentioned in other posts.