Topic: JB3 levels

[airbladder]

How do you check the recording levels on the JB3 when recording optial in? 
Thanks,
Ed

[AT853rxwh]

How do you check the recording levels on the JB3 when recording optial in? 
Thanks,
Ed

Look at the meters?  What version of firmware are you using?

[airbladder]

Don't know what firmware I am using.  I just got it new from creative.  Don't see any meter.  What firmware do I need? 

[F.O.Bean]

d/l 1.40.06

heres the link!!

http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

just add the info it says to....

[AT853rxwh]

d/l 1.40.06

heres the link!!

http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

just add the info it says to....

Yup that is the one I am using, +T bean for the link

[F.O.Bean]

+T backatcha!

[kev B]

Add a SVU-1 or SVU-2 

[AT853rxwh]

Get a MP-2, set the levels, turn on the limiter, and fuhgetaboutit!

[F.O.Bean]

Get a MP-2, set the levels, turn on the limiter, and fuhgetaboutit!

any limiters scare me, youre just not getting "true" levels when putting a limiter on

[AT853rxwh]

Get a MP-2, set the levels, turn on the limiter, and fuhgetaboutit!

any limiters scare me, youre just not getting "true" levels when putting a limiter on

You are right, you are not getting that clip that you would otherwise.  Don't get me wrong, you don't want the limiter to kick in at all (IOW you want to set the levels right!)  But in that rare case when something gets a bit louder for some reason, you won't be clipping and you will still have a useable recording.  When using a decent limiter, with the levels set where they should be, you won't hear it kick in.  Without it, that once in a lifetime recording is now trash...

[Sean Gallemore]

Get a MP-2, set the levels, turn on the limiter, and fuhgetaboutit!

any limiters scare me, youre just not getting "true" levels when putting a limiter on

another reason why I don't "calibrate mine.  I'd rather just get good at getting the levels hot and not have to use undue compression *shudders*.  SO far my Neuros has been very good to me about clipping.

[AT853rxwh]

Get a MP-2, set the levels, turn on the limiter, and fuhgetaboutit!

any limiters scare me, youre just not getting "true" levels when putting a limiter on

another reason why I don't "calibrate mine.  I'd rather just get good at getting the levels hot and not have to use undue compression *shudders*.  SO far my Neuros has been very good to me about clipping.

Using a mp-2 you won't have compression... You will have peak limiting...

Compression squeezes the sound to be within a certain db range. If it is too low it will bring it up, if it is too high it will knock it down.   Peak limiting is exactly what it sounds like.  It limits the peak to afford you the possibility of salvaging what would be a distorted peak.  It is ONLY used to limit that occasional spike over the norm, not all the time. 

[Sean Gallemore]

sounds like compression to me.  If the peak is too high, it compresses it down.

[AT853rxwh]

sounds like compression to me.  If the peak is too high, it compresses it down.

Different

COMPRESSION VS LIMITING

Compression and limiting are often confused because they have very similar characteristics. Compression is said to have a ratio of between2:1 to 20:1, and Limiters are thought to have a ratio of 20:1 to infinity:1.  In easier terms, limiting means that once the output level reaches a certain point, it can get no louder. 

[Sean Gallemore]

ouch, that sounds even worse than compression

although I understand compression has thresholds and whatnot added