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SBD feed with delayed vocals
« on: April 29, 2013, 03:22:19 PM »
i got a soundboard feed this past weekend. first set turn out great. but second set has this weird delay on the vocals. what could have caused this? any way to fix? im sure it cant be fixed... just figure i would ask to get some opinions

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« Last Edit: April 29, 2013, 03:25:43 PM by deadheadcorey »
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Re: SBD feed with delayed vocals
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 03:47:47 PM »
Are you sure that's not just your two separate decks not being clock synced?  Even if they are the same make and model they will likely not be synced.

Only other thought is that the FOH actually boosted the delay on the vox between sets.  That happens.
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Re: SBD feed with delayed vocals
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 03:58:32 PM »
Are you sure that's not just your two separate decks not being clock synced?  Even if they are the same make and model they will likely not be synced.

Only other thought is that the FOH actually boosted the delay on the vox between sets.  That happens.

im sure..

bc i listen to the soundboard source only and the delay is there
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Re: SBD feed with delayed vocals
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 04:25:13 PM »
^^ then probably the FOH just turned up the delay on the vox. It's possible that the effect was more subtle to the actual audience than it is if you're just listening to the standalone SBD.

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Re: SBD feed with delayed vocals
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 04:40:02 PM »
From where did you grab the soundboard signal? RCAs...1/4 inch?

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Re: SBD feed with delayed vocals
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 04:49:54 PM »
From where did you grab the soundboard signal? RCAs...1/4 inch?

XLR Matrix out > rca in (ua-5)
mics: Audix M1245a-HC; AKG SE300B/CK91; Naiant X-O (hanging in the sweet spot @ Quixote's True Blue)
pres: Oade T+ UA-5; digimod UA-5
recs: R-09x3

iso: 2 ck93 caps
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"Life's pretty good. life's pretty good. it isn't all good.
I hate it when people tell me its all good. it's not all good.
it's not suppose to be all good. it's suppose to be bad sometimes so you can enjoy the good parts."

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Re: SBD feed with delayed vocals
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 05:01:43 PM »
From where did you grab the soundboard signal? RCAs...1/4 inch?

XLR Matrix out > rca in (ua-5)

I dunno - I think the second set is the intended effect - the first set sounds like something is wrong in the vox, kinda on the low side...

 

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