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Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« on: March 04, 2010, 02:13:45 PM »
Before the usual cavalcade of ridiculous pictures of giant sombreros, etc. (as funny as they are), please for a moment consider my subject line.

I have found that sometimes, it simply makes more sense to run a rig I can mount to myself... Reasons include:

1. It sounds better to go upfront and a lowpro stand is either not permitted or unworkable for a variety of reasons.

2. I cannot arrive early enough to get a proper spot to set up.

3. I am at the show alone and would like to be able to go to the bathroom/get beer/move without asking someone to watch my gear.

I'm sure there are others.

So anyway, I was thinking about whether anyone has devised a good hat rig for an open taping situation.   My not-open-taping hat rig is fine, but if I were explicitly open taping, it's not really ideal, either. 

All I can really come up with is either putting some loops on the outside of a baseball cap and putting my 4021s in them, though this doesn't provide an ideal pattern since it would basically be A-B.  Or, if I wanted a good pattern, take the step of sticking a T-bar onto a hat, which seems problematic for several reasons, not least of which being weight.

So there are two things I want to know - if you've basically done the baseball hat with external loops thing, I'd be curious to know how you did it and what you used for loops; AND, if I am just not being creative enough, please let me know if there are other good ways to do this.

Again, this is for situations where stealth is not required and concealment is not an issue.
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 03:21:48 PM »
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 04:01:29 PM »
I think the key point is that whether or not you're open or stealth taping with a Kangol, you want to keep things discrete so that you avoid the attention of other people who may either kick you out, if it's stealth, or do obnoxious things like scream into your mics if it's open.  Anyway, I'll send you a PM with a pic of how I do things.

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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 07:40:34 PM »
Can I politely ask if you can send those PMs to me as well? :)
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 10:55:03 PM »

3. I am at the show alone and would like to be able to go to the bathroom/get beer/move without asking someone to watch my gear.


I don't think this will work very well DURING the show. I really don't want to listen to you pee.  :P

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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 11:25:07 PM »
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 07:46:54 AM »
Can I politely ask if you can send those PMs to me as well? :)

ditto please

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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2010, 01:38:00 PM »

3. I am at the show alone and would like to be able to go to the bathroom/get beer/move without asking someone to watch my gear.


I don't think this will work very well DURING the show. I really don't want to listen to you pee.  :P



Why not? It worked fine for Frank Drebin :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4JBj0kxef8
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2010, 02:47:45 PM »
Can I politely ask if you can send those PMs to me as well? :)

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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2010, 03:15:36 PM »


I don't think this will work very well DURING the show. I really don't want to listen to you pee.  :P
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Oh, come on.  Obviously I am not going to the bathroom WHILE recording.  But I am not going to leave $4000 of gear lying on the floor unsupervised while I take a piss break in between sets. 
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2010, 09:03:53 PM »
Oh, come on.  Obviously I am not going to the bathroom WHILE recording. 

A friend of mine did it once and put it on the CD he mastered for laughs.

That's why I never drink when I'm not open taping.
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2010, 10:34:06 PM »
You guys just need to get a bladder buddy http://www.bladderbuddy.com/

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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2010, 02:40:22 PM »

3. I am at the show alone and would like to be able to go to the bathroom/get beer/move without asking someone to watch my gear.


I don't think this will work very well DURING the show. I really don't want to listen to you pee.  :P

Then you dont want a copy of my Neil Young from DU last year.  :P
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2010, 06:48:29 PM »
Funny, I've seen Frank Marino and Mahogony Rush 3 times, and he plays 3+ hour sets. I ALWAYS need to take a pee break, I choose the drum solo.. If Im gonna miss something , it'd be a drum solo...
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Re: Ideas for *open taping* hat rig...?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2010, 07:04:54 PM »
if you already have lowpro mics and a lowpro solution, i would stick with that. even if it's an open taping event, an "open taping hat solution" would attract more wooks than a stand and the mics wouldn't be elevated.

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