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Title: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on May 27, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
hey
so I got the new issue of TapeOp today and notice an ad for the new
CAD e70 condenser  Card/Omni caps

looks like a fairly nice entry level mic
(http://cadmics.com/images/product/e70.jpg)
sorta like the beyer MC930

MSRP $299
street priced at any where between $99 at MFer's to $199 at B&H

specs:
equitek e70 Specifications
Operating Principle:    Condenser
Polar Pattern:    Cardioid and omnidirectional
Frequency Response:    20Hz to 20KHz
Sensitivity:    -39dBV (11mV) @ 1 Pa
Impedance:    85 ohms
Max SPL:    145dB, 1% THD, attenuator engaged
Self Noise:    23dBA
Hi-pass Filter:    75Hz and 150Hz, 6dB/oct
Attenuator:    10dB and 20dB
Power Requirements:    P48, 2mA

found here:
http://cadmics.com/e70.php (http://cadmics.com/e70.php)


Card:
(http://cadmics.com/images/product/polfreq/e70Cardioid.gif)

Omni:
(http://cadmics.com/images/product/polfreq/e70Omni.gif)


looks interesting
anyone have experience?
or thoughts?

peace
-- Ian
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on May 27, 2009, 07:14:19 PM
this from the M F
 site

Quote
The CAD e70 Modular Dual-Capsule Condenser Microphone has an omnidirectional capsule for flat near-field and ambience pick up, and a cardioid capsule for proximity boost and off-axis rejection. The complement of the CAD e60 and the second of virtuoso Al Dimeola's 2 favorite mics for acoustic guitar, you can use the CAD e70 mic to capture your instrumentation with exacting detail. As well as being an ideal acoustic guitar mic, the e70 is excellent for capturing other stringed instruments and as an overhead cymbal mic. Features include field-effect detection, transformerless drive, a dual-frequency hi-pass filter and 2-position attenuator. CAD includes an elastic shock mount, stand clamp, and a windscreen with the e70 modular microphone.
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: newplanet7 on May 27, 2009, 08:02:52 PM
Not sure about these in particular but
I've heard a many great CAD pulls
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on May 27, 2009, 10:13:34 PM
Not sure about these in particular but
I've heard a many great CAD pulls

yes I know CAD makes some nice mics

I think I saw a ship date of June 9th on a couple of sites
however I did see a review of these mics
and they are included int the Al DiMeola Acoustic Guitar mic kit

-- Ian
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on May 27, 2009, 10:17:39 PM
a short thread on the comp of:
CAD E70 vs Oktava 012 Joly Mod
here
http://studioforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1526095781/m/1831086352/inc/1 (http://studioforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1526095781/m/1831086352/inc/1)

kind of interesting since I have heard wonderful reviews of the Joly mod Oktava's

-- Ian
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Neilyboy on June 25, 2009, 04:08:05 PM
I just snagged a pair off fleabay.. we will see how they do..

got them in the mail today.. ill check em out and see as soon as my ua5-jb3 combo gets here (hopefully tomorrow).

neil
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on July 23, 2009, 12:46:41 PM
Neilyboy
have you used them?
what do you think?
any samples of what you got?

peace
-- Ian
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Neilyboy on July 23, 2009, 04:23:05 PM
Used them the other day actually but then ended up going to alpine valley this weekend for dave then saw incubus in chicago tuesday night and just got home last night. I recorded a local 70's/80's cover band practice last tuesday. I recorded them outside of their garage it actually turned out pretty well for what I was working with. I first ran my at4041's then left everything as is and switched out mic's to the e70's and rolled with them for a few songs. They were a tad bit more bass heavy if I recall but still sounded decent for a set of mic's that I paid 99 bucks shipped for...

Ill cut the samples up and throw them online for some info..

/edit.. insert crappy cellphone pic here..
(http://neilyboy.mtco.com/pics/lestersgarage.jpg)

Neil
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Neilyboy on July 24, 2009, 09:50:39 AM
Had time today to snip em up before I get out of the office here..

ones that end in 4041 are of course pulled from my at4041sp... other ending in e70 is the CAD set.. take care

also, the band is a bunch of guys who just got together not too long ago who put on a couple shows a month at some local bars.. so take it easy on them haha..

MP3's:
http://neilyboy.mtco.com/lester/

FLAC's:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=62b6c2e3a8c49ef7d0d290dca69ceb5ce04e75f6e8ebb871

-Neil
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on July 27, 2009, 08:27:56 PM
so I listened
and my ears prefer the CAD e70's
but both sources seem distant
may be getting closer to the source  MOTB style would help and not so high for a garage band with no crowd keep em between waist and chest high

I think what you may be hearing in the AT's is the low end roll off and the enhanced high end presence curve
the e70's seem much more flat by comparison

I think they sound great
especially for low budget mics

thanx for the samples

peace
-- Ian


oh maybe I'm wrong since the 4041's seem very flat too-
(http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/resource_library/product_images/6bae0f4f498e5b13/large/at4041_freq.jpg)
but I do prefer the e70's still
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Neilyboy on July 28, 2009, 07:13:13 AM
I honestly need better playback devices before I really say which I prefer. I agree that the 4041's seem to roll off some of that muddy low end but when listening in my vehicle I still prefer the 4041's as of now. I agree that the mic stand did not need to be as high as it was but I was just tinkering around and figured I would give it a go. I will give them another workout (maybe at an upcoming outdoor fest here in the peoria area next weekend). Thanks for the reply though buddy. I am in the market for either some cheap reference speakers or finding a decent 'vintage' receiver (as I am broke and dont have a large budget for this) and borrowing a set of older speakers my old man picked up back in the day and is no longer using.

I will keep ya updated if I do get away with a decent  pull. But I do agree for a set of mic's which I snagged on ebay for under 100 bucks they dont sound too darn bad.

Neil
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Nick's Picks on September 12, 2010, 07:33:06 AM
Hmmm....
I love cheap mics !
maybe its time to retire my Pulsars and try the CADs
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on September 13, 2010, 03:45:15 AM
Hmmm....
I love cheap mics !
maybe its time to retire my Pulsars and try the CADs

do it
 >:D
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Neilyboy on September 13, 2010, 09:20:54 AM
Hmmm....
I love cheap mics !
maybe its time to retire my Pulsars and try the CADs
Ill mail ya mine if you want to try them out if you shoot them back to me within a month or so

neil
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: disco on September 13, 2010, 05:09:32 PM
Hmmm....
I love cheap mics !
maybe its time to retire my Pulsars and try the CADs
Ill mail ya mine if you want to try them out if you shoot them back to me within a month or so

neil


is that an open offer or just to nick?
I think Jason Sobel could vouch for me here if you need a reference
Title: Re: CAD e70 dual cap card/omni condenser?
Post by: Nick's Picks on September 15, 2010, 07:20:08 AM
Hmmm....
I love cheap mics !
maybe its time to retire my Pulsars and try the CADs
Ill mail ya mine if you want to try them out if you shoot them back to me within a month or so

neil

A generous offer.., but I dont think I'll get out enough to use them.  I'll buy some, as I can always use them in my studio work.