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Title: Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 11:04:39 AM
I currently run a cj pv-12 with my McCormack DNA 0.5 with soon to be MIT Term 3s into B&W cdm7nts. Of those that have knowledge in this area, I would like to know of other low-cost/high quality pre amps. I also need a d>a as well and would love to kill 2 birds with one stone. I used to have a lucid 9624 d>a and it didn't do it for me, wish it did.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: leegeddy on April 06, 2004, 11:25:08 AM
I currently run a cj pv-12 with my McCormack DNA 0.5 with soon to be MIT Term 3s into B&W cdm7nts. Of those that have knowledge in this area, I would like to know of other low-cost/high quality pre amps. I also need a d>a as well and would love to kill 2 birds with one stone. I used to have a lucid 9624 d>a and it didn't do it for me, wish it did.

B&W cdm7nts, eh?  i have the cdm7se's. hope you like the sound.

marc
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 11:30:31 AM
love the speakers, been trying to find the *best* system around them
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: leegeddy on April 06, 2004, 11:57:13 AM
love the speakers, been trying to find the *best* system around them

glad to hear!!

i find that b&w sounds warm, especially in the midrange...silky smooth.
i paired mine with the Sunfire Theater Grand II pre > Audio Research D130.  the analog stage of the Sunfire is quite nice and smooth for an a/v pre.  that's the main reason i got it.  

one of these days, i'll upgrade to some tubes just for music listening and keep the a/v pre for my video/tv/dvd.

marc
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 12:02:41 PM
trey, if i come down to Mississippi (i think thats where you are) in the coming week or two (im interviewing for a job in Jackson) i can probably bring my AMC tube pre with me for you to take a listen to.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 12:05:11 PM
yes I live in Jackson
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 12:07:23 PM
ok lemme find out what ive got coming up and ill keep you informed :-)  ill probably drive down so bringing it wouldnt be a problem
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 12:11:30 PM
where are you interviewing, selfishly I will pull strings to help you if I can. Need more ts members here.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 12:25:26 PM
hehehe im interviewing at the Institute for Southern Jewish Life.  It's for an Education Fellowship.  Honestly, I'd be surprised if they didn't offer it to me.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 12:29:24 PM
so will you be temporarily locating in Jackson if you do get the job?

is it possible to thread hijack your own thread?
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 03:54:46 PM
hehehe if i get the job ill be moving to jackson, ill be gone 2 weekends a month for travel, but ill be in Jackson the rest of the time
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Wes on April 06, 2004, 04:41:43 PM
Trey,
I don't know what prompted you to trade out the audioquest cables for those MITs..  I used to run MIT term. 2's with my CDM-9s and they SUCK life out of the music big time.  :twocents:
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Wes on April 06, 2004, 04:47:02 PM
Oh, and BTW, I've got a Krell Showcase I could bring over if you want to hear it.  The D>A is absolute reference quality, but I doubt it would be what you're looking for since its a pre/pro and has all the DTS, digital decoding crap
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 06:18:03 PM
Trey - I'm selling by Bel Canto to finance a V3, Jonny has the right of first refusal but if he doesn't want it $500 takes it.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 06:37:16 PM
Trey,
I don't know what prompted you to trade out the audioquest cables for those MITs..  I used to run MIT term. 2's with my CDM-9s and they SUCK life out of the music big time.  :twocents:

I still have my vampire wires, will compare and see which I prefer.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 06:37:51 PM
Trey,
I don't know what prompted you to trade out the audioquest cables for those MITs..  I used to run MIT term. 2's with my CDM-9s and they SUCK life out of the music big time.  :twocents:

I still have my vampire wires, will compare and see which I prefer.

yeah but you need a pre behind it no?
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 07:19:57 PM
Tim & Trey, can I get to CO (on thursday evening) and decide by the end of the weekend ?
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 07:22:18 PM
sure thing. I'll be in Vegas on your second trip out but if you haven't decided yet I'll leave it with JBK. I'm not in a big hurry on this one Jonny...
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 07:23:04 PM
hey I dont even want it if I can't run it as a pre
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 07:24:55 PM
hey I dont even want it if I can't run it as a pre

just saw that! oops  :D
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 07:27:06 PM
so that means I need a pre in front correct?
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 07:29:00 PM
yep.

it's a very simple little box, no power switch even. 1 coax rca in, 1 optical in, l/r rca out.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 07:31:12 PM
hey Tim, will it pick from the optical or the coax which to pass signal through- so masically could i have my cd transport and my dvd player both plugged in?  (dvd has optical out, cd has coax out)
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 07:31:21 PM
yep.

it's a very simple little box, no power switch even. 1 coax rca in, 1 optical in, l/r rca out.

well you suck
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 07:32:27 PM
hey Tim, will it pick from the optical or the coax which to pass signal through- so masically could i have my cd transport and my dvd player both plugged in?  (dvd has optical out, cd has coax out)

yep. just plug em both in and your set!

Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 07:32:54 PM
well you suck

you swallow
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 07:43:11 PM
Tim, what is your playback system right now as it stands with the bel canto?
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: twoodruff on April 06, 2004, 07:44:13 PM
well you suck

you swallow

cunt stain
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 07:50:54 PM
Trey wins!

Jonny,

Sony CD Player
Tascam DA-20mkII
Bel Canto DAC-1
B&W 602.5's
Paradigm PDR-8
NAD 370 Integrated
Synergistic Research cables and interconnects

I like it alot but right now I'm going to get more bang for my buck out of my recording rig. This thing was $1200+ new and the used prices dropped when they released the DAC-2 which does 24/192 upsampling, the DAC-1 is only 24/96.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 07:59:03 PM
not that i want to talk you out of it, but the dac-1 can be upgraded to the dac-2 for 500 dollars (which is what most likely id do within 6 mo time)
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 08:04:21 PM
yeah I know, that's a great deal!

this is actually a dac-1.1 as it has had the power supply upgrade.

the only reason I pm'd you about it was because I knew you'd be out here... saves on shipping costs and worries. No pressure though, think about it for awhile.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: jpschust on April 06, 2004, 08:07:07 PM
i got the chance to listen to one not too long ago, my only complaint is its odd size.  id rather it be a 1RU piece of gear than that block, but hey for 500 for a top quality DA im not complaining :-)
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: Tim on April 06, 2004, 08:08:33 PM
it is small enough to tuck away just about anywhere... I don't have rack mounted gear and needed something I could just stick in the corner.
Title: Re:Pre amp opinions
Post by: carlbeck on April 08, 2004, 09:03:10 PM
Trey, try a Benchmark DAC-1, you can use it as a pre-amp b/c it has a analog vollume. I run mine directly into my amp. I run my DAT, CD transport & DVD player into it. You can select three digital inputs & the convertor is great.