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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #240 on: July 07, 2005, 10:47:45 AM »
Does anyone know what types of CF cards / microdirves will support 24/96? I'm assuming it'll need to be 80X to sustain @ 24/96. Is this accurate?
Maybe a better question: will this box make it worth to record in 24 bits or higher samplerates?
I don't want to cause doubt, there haven't been specs posted yet, but if the SNR is little over 96 dB, or if the pre-amp stage is soso, the quality gained by going at 24 bits and/or higher samplerates is very small.

The big question is: what kind of recording quality (ADC, pre, etc) can M-Audio offer for $400? We know their other products, will this new one be on par?

Who cares, it has a digital input. ;)

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #241 on: July 07, 2005, 04:26:03 PM »
I have heard that the M-Audio Transit and their other recent devices (410, I think) do not resample. So I'll take that as a sign that they won't make that mistake.


I havent heard of ANY M-Audio devices resampling


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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #242 on: July 07, 2005, 07:23:40 PM »
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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #243 on: July 07, 2005, 11:30:13 PM »
Does anyone know what types of CF cards / microdirves will support 24/96? I'm assuming it'll need to be 80X to sustain @ 24/96. Is this accurate?
Maybe a better question: will this box make it worth to record in 24 bits or higher samplerates?
I don't want to cause doubt, there haven't been specs posted yet, but if the SNR is little over 96 dB, or if the pre-amp stage is soso, the quality gained by going at 24 bits and/or higher samplerates is very small.

The big question is: what kind of recording quality (ADC, pre, etc) can M-Audio offer for $400? We know their other products, will this new one be on par?

Who cares, it has a digital input. ;)
That's no solution for me: I don't want to carry another device besides the fact that there's no nice small ADC with Lemo connectors.

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #244 on: July 08, 2005, 12:49:54 PM »
fwiw...
the OOP issues w/the R4 were with that particular unit, AFAIK.  I spoke w/Edirol yesterday about it.  they said it was probalby just a soldering miss-hap.  it happens...
the R4 resamples on input, thats a fact.

but, who cares?
garrunteed, 99% of us have gear that resamples it on input (like the DAC in your CD player, or your stand alone DAC).  My sony does it.  My Philips deck did it.  Most new CD/DVD players do it.  Its marketed as a "high end" feature on many products.  While its marketed as an "upsample", which it is doing.....it is resamping the original stream none the less.
yet..when your recorder does it..its taboo.
I understand its not desirable, but the reality is...you dont know or cant hear what your may or maynot be missing.

is this saying that resampling on input definately fucks up a nice incoming stable signal?
I dont know for sure.  my guess would be no.

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #245 on: July 08, 2005, 01:01:54 PM »

garrunteed, 99% of us have gear that resamples it on input (like the DAC in your CD player, or your stand alone DAC).  My sony does it.  My Philips deck did it.  Most new CD/DVD players do it.  Its marketed as a "high end" feature on many products.  While its marketed as an "upsample", which it is doing.....it is resamping the original stream none the less.
yet..when your recorder does it..its taboo.
I understand its not desirable, but the reality is...you dont know or cant hear what your may or maynot be missing.

This is true if I remember my linear systems class. Although I don't think it's called resampling but oversampling. Digital signals since they're discrete suffer from an aliasing problem. This requires DAC's to include a low pass filter to remove the aliased portion from the analog output. Oversampling moves the aliased single out further into the spectrum and allows the filter designers more room in the spectrum to design this low pass filter.

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #246 on: July 08, 2005, 06:04:32 PM »
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I havent heard of ANY M-Audio devices resampling

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #247 on: August 26, 2005, 07:30:53 PM »
 ???
Does anyone know if this device has hit the market yet, and if so, can anyone share their experiences using it?


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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #248 on: August 26, 2005, 07:34:16 PM »
???
Does anyone know if this device has hit the market yet, and if so, can anyone share their experiences using it?



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that should about catch you up :)

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #249 on: August 26, 2005, 07:34:56 PM »
???
Does anyone know if this device has hit the market yet, and if so, can anyone share their experiences using it?



the device hasnt hit the market yet bud...didnt you read the thread???
not trying to be a smartass...but thats all theyve talked about is how they cant wait till it gets here....

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #250 on: August 26, 2005, 07:57:16 PM »
smart ass!
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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #251 on: August 26, 2005, 08:12:08 PM »


smart ass!
;-)
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i was trying to be PC ! ;D

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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #252 on: August 26, 2005, 08:36:08 PM »
???
Does anyone know if this device has hit the market yet, and if so, can anyone share their experiences using it?



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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #253 on: August 26, 2005, 08:40:42 PM »


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Re: New M-Audio Recorder
« Reply #254 on: August 26, 2005, 10:06:24 PM »


smart ass!
;-)
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i was trying to be PC ! ;D

smart butt!  ha! :P


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would that be more appropriate??lmao!!IM just kidding of course..Im a pussycat. :P ;D :)
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