Topic: Trading Shows Is A PITA...Opinions/Suggestions Solicited

[stevetoney]

I have a huge music collection, but I stopped trading my list years ago when bittorrent got popular opting to seed instead.  It's mainly because I find trading with other people to such a huge PITA...others take this shit WAY too serious and I just don't care anymore.

I recently honored a trade request with someone mainly because the other person asked me to trade with them and they wanted LOTS of Phish with little effort.  After offering to do a hard drive swap, he insisted on doing a DVD trade.

I told him I'd do a B&P but he insisted on me trading...sigh...WTF, trying to be a nice guy...so I sifted through his list.

I ended up making him something like 54 DVDs worth of Phish.  I got 28 or so DVDs in return...and blanks to make up the difference.

When he got my DVDs, he bitched because he'd sent higher quality DVDs. 

To compensate, I told him to send me a harddrive.  He sent me a 150GB harddrive, so I filled that with more Phish. 

But he forgot to send me $$ to send the harddrive back, so I paid to mail it back to him.

This morning I get a message making waves that he's gonna start bitching that some of the burns of the DVDs aren't reading on his machine.

Honestly, I'm completely tired of this guy. 

FWIW, I already offered to put the missing shows on the HD if he sends it to me and pays return shipping.

What would you guys do?  Should I re-do the bad burns?

[Krispy D]

I generally don't trade with people I don't know.  B&P only or I send you a link to a torrent.  I can't be bothered.  Too many ass hats that complain about everything.

[DisturbedPyro]

you did all you could. hell you went through more than i would have...i hat hate "tdk dvds are crap! i want sony!" omg stfu...tdk is a name brand. f*ck off. especially when they didnt make it clear they only want a certian brand of dvd in the first place. seriously...youre in the clear as it sounds to me

[vanark]

Forget it.  You've done more than I would have.  You filled up a hard drive and paid to ship it back.  That more than covers you.

You have reminded me why I don't trade.

[L Ron Hoover]

Tell him to pound sand.

[NOLAfishwater]

Steve, you are way nicer than I am. I have have stopped giving out my information at shows unless they blocked for me or bought me a beer. Too many yahoos wanting something for nothing. Don't think I am going to seed shows anymore unless it is a direct request by another taper. Even at that, I am going to post it on private tracker. Maybe I will change my mind one day when I get bored and have the time to seed.  

[Jhurlbs81]

total PITA.  I told somone I'd hook them up with a B&P of DVDs full of Phish FLACS.  He wanted years worth.  10-12 days after agreeing I got a "what's the hold up" message from him.  Days later, "can I get an update on what's up with those discs"

Um, you'll get your discs when I get around to it.  I'm hooking YOU up.

Argh.  No more.

[dorrcoq]

Maybe just don't trade with Phish fans....

Seriously though, I don't trade as much as I used to either, most people have the same stuff I do because they got it from a BT site just like I did.   I sure do appreciate the tapers who hook me up with their masters through B&P, or whatever  , for bands like ABB, or the guys who send me stuff to seed for them.

[Liquid Drum]

Tell him to fuck off and stick the discs up his ass.

I hate people like this, and stuff like that is why I rarely trade these days.

[stevetoney]

Thanks everyone.  I 90% knew the answer already...mainly just wanted to tell the story to get it off my chest!  LOL.

[rsimms3]

I only trade with personal friends who don't have unlimited bandwidth to download a torrent.  I will occasionally give out my info at a show if someone asks for it, most of the time I never hear from them anyway.  In the rare case I do a trade or B+P, I limit how much they can get, only trade in FLAC for audio, and verify all the discs before I mail them.  In your case, the verification alone would have taken a week.  In this case, I think you have done more than enough.    

[Belexes]

You burned 54 DVD's for one guy?  

The guy should be building a shrine in your honor instead of bitching.

[nedstruzz]

Yeah, I don't trade anymore, not enough time.  All this stuff is avialable on etree or Archive, no need to send media anymore.  

Tell the guy to buy a new DVD player/burner and it will read your discs.  

[stevetoney]

...and verify all the discs before I mail them.  In your case, the verification alone would have taken a week.  In this case, I think you have done more than enough.    

Thanks Ryan.  I actually verified all the discs...but they were of course checked on my machine.  I think the problem is that he's getting discs he's not able to read in his machine.  I don't think they're bad burns...just some discs are not readable on his end.  He's taking them to work to see if he can get another computer to read the discs that his machine wouldn't.

[stevetoney]

You burned 54 DVD's for one guy?  

The guy should be building a shrine in your honor instead of bitching.

LOL.  Remember, I'm the guy that had 2 1/2 years in Slovenia (I'm home now for good yay!).  Believe me, burning this many DVDs wasn't a big deal.  It beat the hell out of whatever else I could have been doing.