Topic: Hiss from V3>671**Resolved**

[vince]

Just made my first recording on my new rig of Zilla. The audio from the band is great but there is a distinctive hiss on the recording. I had settings at: 24/44, gain around 35db, I did not have HPF turned on on the V3 or the Microphones, coming S/DIF out with Monster digital cable to Digital-in on 671. I am just playing it back through my computer and headphones
Any guidance or suggestions?

Thanks

Vince

[BC]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

[sygdwm]

bad cable?

[ethan]

Just made my first recording on my new rig of Zilla. The audio from the band is great but there is a distinctive hiss on the recording. I had settings at: 24/44, gain around 35db, I did not have HPF turned on on the V3 or the Microphones, coming S/DIF out with Monster digital cable to Digital-in on 671. I am just playing it back through my computer and headphones
Any guidance or suggestions?

Thanks

Vince

You listening to the 24 bit playback or a dithered playback?

-e

[Kyle]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

Check that - the hiss may be the internal noise from your pc.....

[vince]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

Check that - the hiss may be the internal noise from your pc.....

when I play back on the 671 it sounds great. when I play from the CF card or trasfer to the Dell D600 laptop it has a lot of noise.
I just recorded another artist last night and have the same problem. I am using adobe Audition. I tracked in cdwave and then burned to cd in audition and cd has all the noise on it. I downloaded the trial version os sound forge 8 and had the same issues....bummin here.
I tried all the same on a different laptop a brand new Dell D610 and it was the same.

[BC]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

Check that - the hiss may be the internal noise from your pc.....

when I play back on the 671 it sounds great. when I play from the CF card or trasfer to the Dell D600 laptop it has a lot of noise.
I just recorded another artist last night and have the same problem. I am using adobe Audition. I tracked in cdwave and then burned to cd in audition and cd has all the noise on it. I downloaded the trial version os sound forge 8 and had the same issues....bummin here.
I tried all the same on a different laptop a brand new Dell D610 and it was the same.

Do you hear the noise when you are tracking in CDWAV?

[vince]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

Check that - the hiss may be the internal noise from your pc.....

when I play back on the 671 it sounds great. when I play from the CF card or trasfer to the Dell D600 laptop it has a lot of noise.
I just recorded another artist last night and have the same problem. I am using adobe Audition. I tracked in cdwave and then burned to cd in audition and cd has all the noise on it. I downloaded the trial version os sound forge 8 and had the same issues....bummin here.
I tried all the same on a different laptop a brand new Dell D610 and it was the same.

Do you hear the noise when you are tracking in CDWAV?

Yes it is there in CDWave

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

Check that - the hiss may be the internal noise from your pc.....

when I play back on the 671 it sounds great. when I play from the CF card or trasfer to the Dell D600 laptop it has a lot of noise.
I just recorded another artist last night and have the same problem. I am using adobe Audition. I tracked in cdwave and then burned to cd in audition and cd has all the noise on it. I downloaded the trial version os sound forge 8 and had the same issues....bummin here.
I tried all the same on a different laptop a brand new Dell D610 and it was the same.

Do you hear the noise when you are tracking in CDWAV?

Yes it is there in CDWave

Vince, have you had the 671 updated for the new .wav spec yet?  I don't know if you remember it from when we talked, but you need to get the update from marantz in order to be able to transfer 24bit files dirrectly from the card or through USB.  It has to do with where the extra 8bits of information is, marantz listened to microsoft engineers and went with a new spec that hasn't panned out.  If you transfer the data through the coax out the 8 bits of information are shifted into the correct order and you won't have the static issues.  Doug suggested trying to record in .bwf (broadcast wav) format, but it doesn't fix the problem, you need that update or you're stuck doing real-time transfers for 24 bit recordings.

If you've already had the update done try playing the files in winamp.

Also, if you're buring the files to cd, you must convert them to 16 bit. 

If you're still having problems I don't mind giving you a tech support call, just shoot over your # through a PM.

[Craig T]

how are you doing the 24>16bit conversion?

[vince]

can you playback straight from the 671 to see if the hiss is there?

Check that - the hiss may be the internal noise from your pc.....

when I play back on the 671 it sounds great. when I play from the CF card or trasfer to the Dell D600 laptop it has a lot of noise.
I just recorded another artist last night and have the same problem. I am using adobe Audition. I tracked in cdwave and then burned to cd in audition and cd has all the noise on it. I downloaded the trial version os sound forge 8 and had the same issues....bummin here.
I tried all the same on a different laptop a brand new Dell D610 and it was the same.

Do you hear the noise when you are tracking in CDWAV?

Yes it is there in CDWave

Vince, have you had the 671 updated for the new .wav spec yet?  I don't know if you remember it from when we talked, but you need to get the update from marantz in order to be able to transfer 24bit files dirrectly from the card or through USB.  It has to do with where the extra 8bits of information is, marantz listened to microsoft engineers and went with a new spec that hasn't panned out.  If you transfer the data through the coax out the 8 bits of information are shifted into the correct order and you won't have the static issues.  Doug suggested trying to record in .bwf (broadcast wav) format, but it doesn't fix the problem, you need that update or you're stuck doing real-time transfers for 24 bit recordings.

If you've already had the update done try playing the files in winamp.

Also, if you're buring the files to cd, you must convert them to 16 bit. 

If you're still having problems I don't mind giving you a tech support call, just shoot over your # through a PM.

I did remember the need for an update but had not researched it to see what the symptoms are/were. I will get it out to Marantz and that should fix the issues. I reeeaaally dig the 671 and am getting used to setting it up now.  I remember looking on d-mpro.com for some reference to the update but couldnt find it. Do you have any links to it?

[vince]

how are you doing the 24>16bit conversion?

When you burn a CD project in Adobe Audition, it automagically converts it to 16/44.1. I am thinking that Ghengis is right about the update for the file format being the problem.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Vince

[sygdwm]

fwiw, im not sure mine has been updated, but i have NOT had this problem transferring 24 bits files via usb.

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

fwiw, im not sure mine has been updated, but i have NOT had this problem transferring 24 bits files via usb.

When did you buy your unit? I bought mine from Doug on June 2nd, perhaps yours was one that came in later.  I think the new file format is .wavE or something like that?

[zowie]

when I play back on the 671 it sounds great. when I play from the CF card or trasfer to the Dell D600 laptop it has a lot of noise.
I tried all the same on a different laptop a brand new Dell D610 and it was the same.

I am just playing it back through my computer and headphones

The hiss you are hearing is generated by the laptops' crappy integrated audio during playback.