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Gear / Technical Help => Playback Forum => Topic started by: caymanreview on December 26, 2004, 05:41:25 AM
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im hopefully starting to build a nice moderate playback system (nothing outrageous) il be moving into a small(ish) apartment in chicago in a few months and i hope to ahve it completed by then
ive allready got some polk r20 bookshelf speakers (http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Polk_Audio_R20) and need to push these and whatever else i buy in the speaker dept sometime soon
hope to have surround sound for dvd watching eventually also, if that matters at all. im a playback n00b basically, so take it easy
budget for reciever/amp ~500$
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IF you like Sony products, go for one of their A/V units in your price category. I've never been disappointed with Sony.
If you want some thing else, and may be more "audiophile" try Adcom, their lower line PRe should be in the 5 to 6 hundred range.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/store/productdetail.asp?sku=ADCGFP715&product_name=GFP-715%20Preamplifier
I used to install a lot of Adcom for my home A/V customers when I ran a company that did that. IMO, they are the most "audiophile" sounding product for the money. they compete with gear 5 times it's price.
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I used to install a lot of Adcom for my home A/V customers when I ran a company that did that. IMO, they are the most "audiophile" sounding product for the money. they compete with gear 5 times it's price.
I will second that on adcom. I have a DAC of theirs and it is very nice imo.
Of course my speakers are crap and I am still running a 2 channel integrated tuner amp
so I have no room to boast on the playback arena either. I would also look at Onkyo equipment, that is what I am using for a receiver and I have been pleased.
Just wanted to chime in on Adcom though...
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sony strda3000es will work QUITE nicely -- feed it a digital signal (coax or optical) and it will make your polks sing. Also will feed a 5.1 or 7.1 surround system.
Can be had for around your budget
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I'd also look into the NAD line. You can find the T752 in your price range.
Oh yeah, go used if possible. Agon is your friend
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just bought a 3000ES from the Oades today...hope to have it this week!
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after reading the review on nickspicks.com about the sony strda3000es I want one too!
They can be had for around $600 if you hunt a little bit online.
for what it is worth...the Oades price is not much above that right now...
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imho, believe the hype on the sonys. I've been running a strda5000es for about a year now and like it more and more each day.
Also, it doesn't hurt to ask any dealer to match a lower price -- worst they could do is refuse to match (and explain why).
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Audiogon is a great place to buy used.
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How would you classify the "sound" of the ES line?
Is it warm? or... Analytical and un-colored? or... somewhat bright and shiney? etc.
The speakers in my potential playback rig are very flat and uncolored and I think would benefit from a little warmth. Somehow the digital nature of the sony doesn't seem like the right fit just from thinking of it but who knows.
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just bought a 3000ES from the Oades today...hope to have it this week!
congrats Nick... I'm really hoping to have mine ordered very soon too
*crosses fingers*
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congrats Nick... I'm really hoping to have mine ordered very soon too
*crosses fingers*
thanks! weather caused it so to speak....I am supposed to be in Atlantic City right now gambling away my hard earned money with a buddy of mine, but due to the weather, I didnt feel like making the drive was a good move for one night....the wife in her infinite wisdom said you ought to take the money you were going to spend up there and get that stereo you wanted....yet more proof that I married the right woman :)
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+T to your wife ;D
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How would you classify the "sound" of the ES line?
Is it warm? or... Analytical and un-colored? or... somewhat bright and shiney? etc.
The speakers in my potential playback rig are very flat and uncolored and I think would benefit from a little warmth. Somehow the digital nature of the sony doesn't seem like the right fit just from thinking of it but who knows.
What kind of budget do you have. The Jolida hybrid integrated amps are moderately priced, especially if you find one on Audiogon, and should add some nice warmth to your system. The preamp section of the amp is tube based which adds some nice warmth while the amp section is solid state to keep it affordable. I don't personally run one but a friend of mine has one (I forget the model) and I think it sounds very good for the money.
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sony strda3000es will work QUITE nicely -- feed it a digital signal (coax or optical) and it will make your polks sing. Also will feed a 5.1 or 7.1 surround system.
Can be had for around your budget
anyone know the cheapest retailer to find one of these? as many people fluff these units, i bet someone has shopped around and can save me the legwork ;)
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anyone know the cheapest retailer to find one of these? as many people fluff these units, i bet someone has shopped around and can save me the legwork ;)
A quick browsing for the str-da3000es on froogle.com found this -- http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?dpno=654377&store=ecost&source=ewbfroogle&adcampaign=email,ewbfroogle
A refurbished 3000es for $462.74
Sound of the sony es series -- I find these units' best feature to be their amazing soundstage and imaging and WARM, natural sound. I believe the digital nature of these beasts contributes to this -- if your primary listening material is digital (opposed to analog), then at a minimum, this deserves a listen. I say this because all imputs are converted to digital and upsampled to dsd (the format used by sacd). I believe that much of the sonic signature of these puppies is derived from this dsd upsampling. Note -- you feed these amps a digital signal (spdif). Thus, the cd player, dat deck, etc. merely serve as transports to feed the amp and you're in effect purchasing a d>a, receiver and amp all wrapped in 1 package.
Enough fluffing
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How would you classify the "sound" of the ES line?
Is it warm? or... Analytical and un-colored? or... somewhat bright and shiney? etc.
The speakers in my potential playback rig are very flat and uncolored and I think would benefit from a little warmth. Somehow the digital nature of the sony doesn't seem like the right fit just from thinking of it but who knows.
What kind of budget do you have. The Jolida hybrid integrated amps are moderately priced, especially if you find one on Audiogon, and should add some nice warmth to your system. The preamp section of the amp is tube based which adds some nice warmth while the amp section is solid state to keep it affordable. I don't personally run one but a friend of mine has one (I forget the model) and I think it sounds very good for the money.
I could be arm twisted into spending around, eh, $500 or so at the most probably. Although if I were to come in at something lower I'd feel better about myself :P
The speakers are a pair of Axiom M22's I'm going to be picking up from another board member here sometime soon.
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I've been happy with the Outlaw 1050 which is discontinued. The new 950 looks pretty sweet.
Josh
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What kind of budget do you have. The Jolida hybrid integrated amps are moderately priced, especially if you find one on Audiogon, and should add some nice warmth to your system. The preamp section of the amp is tube based which adds some nice warmth while the amp section is solid state to keep it affordable. I don't personally run one but a friend of mine has one (I forget the model) and I think it sounds very good for the money.
Can you find out what model Jolida? I've been considering a 1501 but I don't know anyone who has one and I'd like to ask some questions about it if that is what your friend has.
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What kind of budget do you have. The Jolida hybrid integrated amps are moderately priced, especially if you find one on Audiogon, and should add some nice warmth to your system. The preamp section of the amp is tube based which adds some nice warmth while the amp section is solid state to keep it affordable. I don't personally run one but a friend of mine has one (I forget the model) and I think it sounds very good for the money.
Can you find out what model Jolida? I've been considering a 1501 but I don't know anyone who has one and I'd like to ask some questions about it if that is what your friend has.
Sure, I'll find out and let you know.
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for <$300 you can get a Panasonic XR50. I run the now discontinued XR45 and love it. if you need HDMI, the XR70 is +$100.