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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2006, 09:48:20 PM »
+ T for buying the playback before drywall!

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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2006, 10:23:39 PM »
What's even worse is that I bought the house just for this room!
+ T back at ya
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2006, 10:07:30 AM »
I would use oc 703 for insulation fwiw.
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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2006, 12:02:52 PM »
I would use oc 703 for insulation fwiw.

Rigid fiberglass for insulation???  OC 703 and 705 are duct board, NOT insulation!  Being in the NE I would imagine he wants insulation R13 or the like.  I imagine most are using the 2 layer of drywall for sound isolation, not treatment. 

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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2006, 12:08:15 PM »
Very Nice! Are you going to do the double layer of drywall, a la Oade...? Somewhere there is a good thread on how Doug tricked out his listening area for his Reference System, and it has some good, easy to replicate tips... Have fun!

thats how we did the interior of my new place- it's double thick 5/8" drywall, the 16' high ceilings are tough to deal with, but they are actually opening up my speakers.
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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2006, 12:16:15 PM »
Very Nice! Are you going to do the double layer of drywall, a la Oade...? Somewhere there is a good thread on how Doug tricked out his listening area for his Reference System, and it has some good, easy to replicate tips... Have fun!

thats how we did the interior of my new place- it's double thick 5/8" drywall, the 16' high ceilings are tough to deal with, but they are actually opening up my speakers.

And I imagine that was to reduce sound transmission correct?  Sound is best killed my mass/density.  Adding a second layer of sheetrock will do this.  My next home will be of the room within a room approach with insulated flex duct work and all.  Proabably staggered studs and 2 layers of sheetrock with green glue.  Not gonna let the wife have any reason to complain about volume levels during sun. afternoon oxygen/lifetime tv movies.

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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2006, 01:26:07 PM »
the primary focus was to reduce transmission from unit to unit, but it served its purpose to keep things together sonically.  Though im limited on options as the floor and the ceiling were pretty much already in place- i just added the hardwood (i just had an option for color basically) and the ceiling is ribbed concrete.
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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2006, 02:17:05 PM »
Jesus! What the hell are those garden hoses doing coming out of your amps? :o
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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2006, 03:49:34 PM »
Jesus! What the hell are those garden hoses doing coming out of your amps? :o

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I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2006, 02:27:22 PM »
Great discussion on the aspect of room design & correction by the way guys, thanks I appreciate it. I really have to start getting some materials together to get this room going.
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



Mics: Telefunken Elam 260, 61, 62, MBHO KA200, KA500 > Niant PFA's, AKG C34L-MS
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Old rig: Recording: AKG C34 & AKG CK1X or CK2X > MK46 > 460 > Aeta Mix2000 > Sound Devices 702

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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2006, 09:00:23 AM »
Man, when I have a room and system like that I will say to myself "self, you have got it good!"

+T on having it good!
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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2006, 09:11:16 AM »
+ T back at you!
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2006, 10:41:41 AM »
+ T back at you!
There is a product that is being used now in new construction home theatre rooms for noise cancelation that goes under the drywall.  If I remember right it is a rubber-ish strip that goes over each stud/truss/rafter that has drywall attached to it under the drywall.  It is supposed to do a lot to cut down on vibration and thus deadens the room.  I will talk to our audio install company and find out what it is called.  I'm a salesman for a homebuilder btw.  I don't do a lot of houses with highend med-highend audio rooms but I do a few.  Anybody ever heard of this?
     I've also heard of using a layer of 1" r-board under the drywall.  R-board is typically used on the outside of the home for insulation.  It is very rigid foam, and drywalling over it isn't a problem as long as you use long screws, and mark where your studs are on the foam so you don't shoot a million in without hitting wood.
     Just for general building practice, regardless of what you do for sound.  It would be a good idea in that room to use steel angles where the rafter hits the side walls.  Rafters and trusses move quite a bit with changes in temp and humidity and that is how you get a lot of split seems at the corner of outside walls.  The idea here is that the steel angle (very thin steel specifically designed for this purpose) attaches to the wall, and instead of attaching the drywall to the ceiling at the corner, you screw it into the stell angle.  then the rafters/truss can move without pulling on the seam.  surprisingly not all pro's use this, and we have to specifically ask for it when we get a new drywaller.  Once they understand how much warranty work it saves them, they never charge us for it.

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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2006, 10:53:00 AM »
Wow, thanks for the tip! Looks like I am giving another +T
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: New toys & lot's of pictures!
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2006, 10:59:38 AM »
There a mention of some of these under-the-sheetrock treatments in the latest edition of the Complete Guide to High-End Audio.

Carlbeck, you recommended this book awhile back, so I assume you have it....?
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