Author Topic: Best and Smallest power for Schoeps? (Read 7785 times)

chong138 · « **on:** March 23, 2006, 10:55:16 AM »

I've been reading through all the threads about Schoeps and powering options on here. I'm looking to upgrade from DPA 4061's to some Schoeps. So from what I understand about the Schoeps the most common caps are MK4's for taping shows. But to power them I need 48v. I only Stealth so I need a compact setup. Looks like I'd be going MK4>KCY 250>?. I'd defintely want to use the KCY 250 because of the small size. So which pre/battery box is The absolute smallest one on the market to power these mics with the KCY 250 and no mic bodies?
Is there a certain site that people go to for Schoeps mics? Where's the best place to get them from?

nickgregory · « **Reply #1 on:** March 23, 2006, 11:06:20 AM »

do a search on the nbox and lemo sonosax...alot of discussions have been had around this

Craig T · « **Reply #2 on:** March 23, 2006, 11:09:58 AM »

nbox! pm Nick aka "schoepsnbox".

Ed. · « **Reply #3 on:** March 23, 2006, 11:10:32 AM »

you may want to try the nbox, it comes with its own custom cables...all you'd need to buy would be the caps.

just another option.

chong138 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 23, 2006, 11:22:08 AM »

is the NBOX the smallest option?

Craig T · « **Reply #5 on:** March 23, 2006, 11:33:00 AM »

probably. phantom power AND 20db fixed gain in a box approx. 4"W x 4"L x 2"H.

Quote from: chong138 on March 23, 2006, 11:22:08 AM

is the NBOX the smallest option?

Brian Skalinder · « **Reply #6 on:** March 23, 2006, 11:33:59 AM »

Quote from: chong138 on March 23, 2006, 11:22:08 AM

is the NBOX the smallest option?

The smallest option is probably a Denecke PS-2 for phantom power + a pair of line transformers for gain (but this option won't work with the KCY cable unless you get an adapter cable to run XLR from the PS-2 to the 5-pin binder on the KCY cable). NBox is next in line. Then the Lemosax (Sonosax SX-M2/LS2). They're all *very* stealthable and you should select whichever option fits your budget and sounds best to your ears.

johnw · « **Reply #7 on:** March 23, 2006, 12:26:13 PM »

Wouldn't CCM4>PS2>recorder be the smallest option? That would eliminate the need for bodies or a Sax/NBox. No idea how this would sound though.

JasonR · « **Reply #8 on:** March 23, 2006, 12:34:07 PM »

CCMs into a microtracker would be about the smallest Schoeps rig that could be done. Obviously you lose the flexibility of the switchable caps, and use the Microtracker's nonstandard but supposedly functional phantom power.

- Jason

ianstone · « **Reply #9 on:** March 23, 2006, 02:19:18 PM »

Quote from: Jason Reiser on March 23, 2006, 12:34:07 PM

CCMs into a microtracker would be about the smallest Schoeps rig that could be done. Obviously you lose the flexibility of the switchable caps, and use the Microtracker's nonstandard but supposedly functional phantom power.

- Jason

been stealthing w/ the 722, cmc6/kc5/mk's....

wondering if the microtracker is stable enough, and how long it'll last when providing phantom. its a lot smaller than 722, and would be real easy to sneak in the MT/cables/mics

keepongoin · « **Reply #10 on:** March 23, 2006, 02:28:20 PM »

i don't think the internal battery in the Microtracker would last very long powering schoeps. probably 1 hr, may 1.5 hours...

heath · « **Reply #11 on:** March 23, 2006, 02:33:03 PM »

make sure you send em 60 volts

Sanjay · « **Reply #12 on:** March 23, 2006, 07:33:46 PM »

Quote from: heath on March 23, 2006, 02:33:03 PM

make sure you send em 60 volts

argh lets not start this again, my poor little brain can't handle it.

speaking of which where's fluffy, fluffer, fluffhead whatever the fuck his name is? I need some entertainment!

Kyle · « **Reply #13 on:** March 23, 2006, 07:59:38 PM »

60Volt Parade

todd e · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2006, 08:23:15 AM »

Get yourself the Schoeps pre-amp, that works with any active setup.

VMS05 or the older vms02ib.

Pricey, but they are designed for exactly the purpose you stated.

jkoch · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2006, 02:00:18 AM »

nbox+

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2006, 08:31:47 PM »

Quote from: ianstone on March 23, 2006, 02:19:18 PM

Quote from: Jason Reiser on March 23, 2006, 12:34:07 PM
CCMs into a microtracker would be about the smallest Schoeps rig that could be done. Obviously you lose the flexibility of the switchable caps, and use the Microtracker's nonstandard but supposedly functional phantom power.

- Jason

been stealthing w/ the 722, cmc6/kc5/mk's....

wondering if the microtracker is stable enough, and how long it'll last when providing phantom. its a lot smaller than 722, and would be real easy to sneak in the MT/cables/mics

dood 2 shows does not constitute......been stealthing w/a 722

Chris K · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:03:34 PM »

Quote from: chong138 on March 23, 2006, 10:55:16 AM

I've been reading through all the threads about Schoeps and powering options on here. I'm looking to upgrade from DPA 4061's to some Schoeps. So from what I understand about the Schoeps the most common caps are MK4's for taping shows. But to power them I need 48v. I only Stealth so I need a compact setup. Looks like I'd be going MK4>KCY 250>?. I'd defintely want to use the KCY 250 because of the small size. So which pre/battery box is The absolute smallest one on the market to power these mics with the KCY 250 and no mic bodies?
Is there a certain site that people go to for Schoeps mics? Where's the best place to get them from?

nbox. without question

check it out...click the link below:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=58156.0

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:05:47 PM »

Quote from: Chris K on April 06, 2006, 09:03:34 PM

Quote from: chong138 on March 23, 2006, 10:55:16 AM
I've been reading through all the threads about Schoeps and powering options on here. I'm looking to upgrade from DPA 4061's to some Schoeps. So from what I understand about the Schoeps the most common caps are MK4's for taping shows. But to power them I need 48v. I only Stealth so I need a compact setup. Looks like I'd be going MK4>KCY 250>?. I'd defintely want to use the KCY 250 because of the small size. So which pre/battery box is The absolute smallest one on the market to power these mics with the KCY 250 and no mic bodies?
Is there a certain site that people go to for Schoeps mics? Where's the best place to get them from?

nbox. without question

check it out...click the link below:

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=58156.0

unless you have super sensitive dog like hearing like our loving moderator Frank S.

I love the Nbox for stealthing it is the best unit IMO....but everyone knows that I feel that way and hates me for it....great thing is I dont give a fuck.

Chris K · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:07:26 PM »

you are ok in my book fluff..... -T

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:09:18 PM »

Quote from: Chris K on April 06, 2006, 09:07:26 PM

you are ok in my book fluff..... -T

back at ya!

You going to MMW at the WCL tomorrow afternoon? I'll be there.

Chris K · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:14:16 PM »

nope...cause mmw is at the kimmel center

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:15:55 PM »

Quote from: Chris K on April 06, 2006, 09:14:16 PM

nope...cause mmw is at the kimmel center

you going to the kimmel?

dd

Chris K · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:19:11 PM »

not sure

if i go i'll bring a few bottle of elbro nertke

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:27:12 PM »

Quote from: Chris K on April 06, 2006, 09:19:11 PM

not sure

if i go i'll bring a few bottle of elbro nertke

I will not be at the kimmel but I would like an elbro nerkte

Chris K · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2006, 09:34:35 PM »

here ya go...

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2006, 10:18:52 PM »

Quote from: Chris K on April 06, 2006, 09:34:35 PM

here ya go...

bastard! -T in 12

midside · « **Reply #27 on:** April 07, 2006, 01:39:33 AM »

if you have phantom power (like the 722), you can't get anything smaller than the schoeps vst62

http://www.posthorn.com/S_vst62.html

brianp · « **Reply #28 on:** April 07, 2006, 01:37:16 PM »

Schoeps ccm4 > Sonosax SX-M2 > M1

or

ccm4 > EAA PSP2 > M1

Both of those would sound great and are super compact.

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 07, 2006, 01:58:53 PM »

Quote from: Chris K on April 06, 2006, 09:14:16 PM

nope...cause mmw is at the kimmel center

FYI ChrisK: I just left the WCL where I saw MMW for a free lunchtime show....must have been off your radar.....elbro nerkte? just sayin

Chris K · « **Reply #30 on:** April 07, 2006, 03:23:16 PM »

"i don't know, i was really drunk at the time" - pink fluffloyd

dlantelme · « **Reply #31 on:** April 14, 2006, 03:06:45 AM »

ccm4>SX-M2>M1
how many schoeps owners own multiple caps?
works for me

tonyvt · « **Reply #32 on:** April 14, 2006, 05:17:11 PM »

I ran ccm41's into a sonosax for years and made some nice sounding tapes.

gngrbrdman13 · « **Reply #33 on:** April 14, 2006, 05:20:36 PM »

Quote from: tonyvt on April 14, 2006, 05:17:11 PM

I ran ccm41's into a sonosax for years and made some nice sounding tapes.

yeah right