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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: T-90 on November 08, 2005, 10:29:54 PM
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pls help fellas....ive got mics and a jb3....cant find even a broken ua-5 to save my life.....what else can I put in between the mics/jb3 that will phantom power and a/d convert that wont kill my bank account.....I am just getting started and am kind of confused about my options....any help would be great!!!
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Alot of people use the PSP-2/AD-20 combo around here. The PSP-2 will provide P48 and the AD-20 is your gain/adc.
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a modified Lunatec v3 from grace designs >:D
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What kind of mics are you running? I used the combo patrick suggested for 6 months or so when I first started taping.
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please dont laugh too hard.....mics are MXL 990/993.....gonna at least try them before upgrading them, just need to finsh the rig up....I really want the ua-5 but they are hard to find these days.....Patricks set up seems like it might work nice.....any thoughts on the Rolls pb224 for p48?
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a modified Lunatec v3 from grace designs >:D
nice and not costly at all :)
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Don't worry about people laughing. Fuck them if they do. just have fun with it. T+
I was told a long time ago to go with the ps-2. It creates less noise & you'll be glad you kicked down the extra cash for it.
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go with the ps-2
and FYI i found a UA-5 on ebay that for a buy it now of $242.42 maybe it could work for you
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-UA5-Audio-Capture-USB-Audio-Interface_W0QQitemZ7360564041QQcategoryZ23784QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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here is one more
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-UA-5-24Bit-96kHz-USB-Audio-Capture-Device_W0QQitemZ7364312841QQcategoryZ23784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
both of them are in the uk
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I have the Sound Pro preamp up for sale in the yard sale. Probably the cheapest acceptable solution, at least if you're in the camp that finds the NJB's built in ADC acceptable, which I firmly am. I was quite pleased with it but have since upgraded to the MixPre 2 (a.k.a. FP24), which I can also highly recommend if you want to spend more.
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go with the ps-2
and FYI i found a UA-5 on ebay that for a buy it now of $242.42 maybe it could work for you
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-UA5-Audio-Capture-USB-Audio-Interface_W0QQitemZ7360564041QQcategoryZ23784QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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here is one more
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-UA-5-24Bit-96kHz-USB-Audio-Capture-Device_W0QQitemZ7364312841QQcategoryZ23784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
both of them are in the uk
I saw the 2nd one, which is why im asking about this now so I can make a choice based on good info.....thanks for the effort man.....ppl seem to like the psp-2/ad-20
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I have the Sound Pro preamp up for sale in the yard sale. Probably the cheapest acceptable solution, at least if you're in the camp that finds the NJB's built in ADC acceptable, which I firmly am. I was quite pleased with it but have since upgraded to the MixPre 2 (a.k.a. FP24), which I can also highly recommend if you want to spend more.
Sound Pro preamp eh......great, yet another option.....my poor head :) I will take a look man, thanks!
Sooooo.......whats the general thought on the jb3's adc.....acceptable for a beginner at least? I plan to mainly record at outdoor festivals
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I have the Sound Pro preamp up for sale in the yard sale. Probably the cheapest acceptable solution, at least if you're in the camp that finds the NJB's built in ADC acceptable, which I firmly am. I was quite pleased with it but have since upgraded to the MixPre 2 (a.k.a. FP24), which I can also highly recommend if you want to spend more.
Sound Pro preamp eh......great, yet another option.....my poor head :) I will take a look man, thanks!
Sooooo.......whats the general thought on the jb3's adc.....acceptable for a beginner at least? I plan to mainly record at outdoor festivals
my 00.2
i would get a ua-5 or the ps-2/ad-20 combo
Raphael
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use a phantom power supply, without a doubt.
you can get a ps2/ad20 combo for ~$300, but if I were you I would wait until an oade modded unit comes up in the YS. the UA5 is very easy to use - only one box and one battery - much more beginner friendly than the ps2/ad20 combo.
you will do just fine with the ps2/ad20 combo; but based on my experience I'd go with any ua-5 you can find.
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Sooooo.......whats the general thought on the jb3's adc.....acceptable for a beginner at least?
really depends on your ears - more people say they don't like it than do - but it doesn't matter what they say it's what you hear- you will likely find it acceptable at first but using a differnt A/D will sound MUCH better, if you can be patient i'd say keep checking eBay for a ua-5 and keep checking the yard sale here for either ua-5/ps-2 combo, especially if you can afford it - don't sell yourself short just cause you want something now unless you absolutely have to have a pre right away - maybe try posting an ISO in the yardsalesomeone may be getting ready to sell one, either one comes up fairly frequently here you shouldn't have to wait too long
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Sooooo.......whats the general thought on the jb3's adc.....acceptable for a beginner at least? I plan to mainly record at outdoor festivals
You can easily decide this for yourself. Just record a CD (or LP or FM, whatever) from your stereo to your jukebox (line in, 44 or 48 wav) and you'll hear how the ADC sounds. Ideally, you'd then do a digital transfer and play it back over your stereo to isolate the effect of the NJB's D-A conversion, but even if you just play it back through the NJBs line out (not headphone out, which degrades the sound a bit) you'll get a decent idea.
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go with the ps-2
and FYI i found a UA-5 on ebay that for a buy it now of $242.42 maybe it could work for you
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-UA5-Audio-Capture-USB-Audio-Interface_W0QQitemZ7360564041QQcategoryZ23784QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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here is one more
http://cgi.ebay.com/Edirol-UA-5-24Bit-96kHz-USB-Audio-Capture-Device_W0QQitemZ7364312841QQcategoryZ23784QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
both of them are in the uk
Heres a new one for 249.00 + shipping
http://www.digitalproaudio.com/edirol-ua-5-usb-digital-audio-capture.html
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Running mics I would be patient for the UA-5..cheap and easy.
sbm-1 w/ the 7 pin optical & PS-2...they are around, just have to be in the right place at the right time...keeps things small.
Or if you patch have a coax to optical made...bet ToddR would give it a shot or, maybe leegeddy....if you have to just get a hosa converter for patching.
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thanks soooo much for all your feedback......I think I am going to get a ua-5 from somewhere.......seems to be the most simple unit for power and adc......everyones thoughts are much appricated......Im gonna try terrapinj's suggestion and check out the jb3's adc, but I fear it will sound sub-par for what I am after. Thanks again and keep on taping!!!!!!!!!!!!
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a T+ mod UA5 just went up in the YS. It sounds as good as V3 :scared: for half the price.
To some ears, yes. To others, no. People should decide for themselves (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=53535.0). There's a reason I keep my V3. :)
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http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=53707.0
250.00 UA-5
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or here is a DIY digi-modded one for $250. The only thing that sucks about DIY ones is you can't send it to Oade and get the mods done (W=warm, T=Transparent, P=Presence)
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=53707.0
you can still send it to busman2 though to get it modded, so its not like you'll be stuck forever with the stock sounding box if you don't want it.
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Heres a new one for 249.00 + shipping
http://www.digitalproaudio.com/edirol-ua-5-usb-digital-audio-capture.html
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I could not help myself and bought this right away.....I will play with it stock for a bit and then have it modded......now more listening and research to determine if I like the W, T, or P mod :) Not to mention these mics, not sure if they will sound good, but I have to start somewhere!
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Heres a new one for 249.00 + shipping
http://www.digitalproaudio.com/edirol-ua-5-usb-digital-audio-capture.html
I could not help myself and bought this right away.....I will play with it stock for a bit and then have it modded......now more listening and research to determine if I like the W, T, or P mod :) Not to mention these mics, not sure if they will sound good, but I have to start somewhere!
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the only mod you can get with that is the busman2. Oade will not do the mod on UA-5's he did not sell
Raphael
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Maybe I am mis-remembering, but I thought you cannot use a UA-5s with an NJB without a mod.
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oh boy.....
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Heres a new one for 249.00 + shipping
http://www.digitalproaudio.com/edirol-ua-5-usb-digital-audio-capture.html
I could not help myself and bought this right away.....I will play with it stock for a bit and then have it modded......now more listening and research to determine if I like the W, T, or P mod :) Not to mention these mics, not sure if they will sound good, but I have to start somewhere!
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did you order online or over the phone - i think i tried ordering through them a few months ago and they said they were out of stock but didn't update their website, may wanna give them a call to double check
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good idea...I ran into that several other times myself but it never let me go all the way through the payment process.....so is this true that the ua-5 has to be modded to work with a njb3? I thought just the other way around, worked stock?
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good idea...I ran into that several other times myself but it never let me go all the way through the payment process.....so is this true that the ua-5 has to be modded to work with a njb3? I thought just the other way around, worked stock?
check the FAQ or search around, in a nutshell the ua-5 does not provide a digi/coax out signal without being hooked up to a computer, the digimod bypasses that requirement, the oade and busman2 mods improve the sound of the box
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thanks again man......big learning process.....you prob forget the bliss of ignorance.......I will read up some more in the FAQ on the digimod
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thanks again man......big learning process.....you prob forget the bliss of ignorance.......I will read up some more in the FAQ on the digimod
definately read up and search around - the ua-5 is such a common pre/ad that almost any questions you have will be covered (probably multiple times) also check out the team ua-5 threadhttp://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=48735.0 (http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=48735.0) lots of good info on the busman2 mod and other general questions. don't be afraid to ask questions here, but don't be lazy like a lot of people can be and expect everyone to just tell you everything without you doing any of the groundwork, we're more than happy to help but you gotta be willing to take on a good bit of the learning effort for yourself - good call on the ua-5 you'll be happy you held out for it.
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thanks man......never looking for anyone to do for me what I can do for myself and besides, the research is how we learn......well you were right, they ARE OUT of stock......so again ive got choices to make.......thanks again for the help on the ua-5 deal.......back to square 1
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great info again......I really feel the love here guys......really wanting to stick it out and wait for the ua-5 here or on ebay.....seems like the best solution.....ive got a bad case of OCD with this thing and wont rest until im recording sweet sweet tunes on my own :) Everyone here is more than helpful to lamers such as myself.
Ended up with the PSP-2/AD-20 combo from yard sale.....thanks again for all of the input :)