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acoustic show hiss problem
« on: September 20, 2007, 05:45:24 AM »
I recorded an acoustic show last night and got more hiss than i expected.The first set seems to be fine,but the second set is suprisingly hissy.As it was a cocktail bar and there was a bit of noise,i put the mic next to the speaker,and obviously set my levels pretty low.Seems like they must have been too low as there is a lot of hiss,and its a shame as it could have been a listenable recording with neXt to no audience noise.I have no experience with trying to improve this kind of problem,as ive tried and always made it sound worse.Has anyone( preferable in the uk) got enough experience with this kind of thing to give it a go??.Any help is appreciated.Il try and post a sample so you can hear how bad it is.

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 05:46:27 AM »
Here is a sample.....can this recording be saved??

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=5792155&q=hi
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2007, 07:50:54 AM »
just a suggestion, but sometimes, the actual PA gives out a LOT of hiss at a close range, but you may not notice it from the seating area... i found if you put you ear right next to a live speaker with nothing coming through at all, there tends to be hiss... that might be the hiss factor there... not sure why it was worse in the 2nd set... maybe more instruments on stage, therefore more hiss from each channel through the PA?

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2007, 08:22:00 AM »
i recorded the 1st set a little further backwhich is why it sounds better,but it has more background noise form the venue.So then I thought id try and record a bit closer so thats when i moved the mic next to the speaker.I expect il get another chance to record this local singer but,was just a bit letdown by the result of the 2nd set.If i take into consideration that there is some hiss from the speaker that will account for some of it.Thanks for your reply and shining some logic on this.

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2007, 09:44:34 AM »
i can target hiss pretty easily.  if you'd like to send the whole thing I can give it whirl as my time today at work is fairly open.  maybe put it on yousendit or something....
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 10:00:49 AM »
i recorded the 1st set a little further backwhich is why it sounds better,but it has more background noise form the venue.So then I thought id try and record a bit closer so thats when i moved the mic next to the speaker.I expect il get another chance to record this local singer but,was just a bit letdown by the result of the 2nd set.If i take into consideration that there is some hiss from the speaker that will account for some of it.Thanks for your reply and shining some logic on this.

Also consider choice of deck, and the input settings used for a particular model can effect recorded noise. 

Some decks are naturally noisy especially if using MIC input set on HIGH sensitivity and with turning down recording level adjustment at <1/3 of the full scale maximums indicating there's too much 1st stage preamp gain being applied for your choice of deck's input.  Like if using mic input set in high instead of maybe more appropriate LOW turning up the manual adjustment nearer to or at full maximum

Don't know your model of deck or settings used, but if using AUTO level adjust setting, consider this often makes wrong input settings/excessive noise troubleshooting more difficult to recognize and correct.  Even if noise is not a problem, using auto rec level is convenient, but also inserts dynamic effects you might not want.

My site has a section describing appropriate input settings found on DAT/MD/most minidecks that influence getting clipping distortions, but same advice in finding correct manual recording settings also helps eliminating noise issues on some noisy input recorders. see this at: www.sonicstudios.com/tips.htm#dattip
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 10:32:11 AM »
Its 399 mb,so i dont think yousendit will be able to cope with a file of that size will it??.

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2007, 10:35:24 AM »
might not....let me think about how we could get this thing to me.
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2007, 10:36:17 AM »
this says no size limit:

http://www.sendthisfile.com/
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2007, 11:43:14 AM »
Its gonna take quite a while but im sending it now.Its done 12% so far and has taken 33 minutes.

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2007, 11:49:11 AM »
cool.  i'll give it a listen when done. 
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2007, 02:12:45 PM »
any progress?
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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2007, 02:44:19 PM »
i can target hiss pretty easily.  if you'd like to send the whole thing I can give it whirl as my time today at work is fairly open.  maybe put it on yousendit or something....

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2007, 02:49:35 PM »
34%  :-\

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Re: acoustic show hiss problem
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2007, 02:58:25 PM »
wow.  that's seriously slow for a mere 399MB.  What kind of connection you running?
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