Author Topic: How to transfer data pc > pc (Read 5922 times)

Chanher · « **on:** September 11, 2004, 03:54:07 PM »

I recorded a concert on a pc (24/48). I flac'd the large unedited file and it's way too big for a cd-r. I need to transfer it to my main DAW. neither have a dvd-rw or dvd-rom. Would it be possible to just hook the two units via usb? I also have a jb3 at my disposal...

Chairman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 11, 2004, 03:55:43 PM »

Might have to use the JB3 as a bridge. By the time you figure out the right software or get the right answer on this board, you could have it moved.

Sloan Simpson · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2004, 03:59:54 PM »

Or you could just use CDWave to 'track' the raw file at arbitrary points that will make the files small enough to fit on CD-R's, re-flac, burn, and reassemble on the other machine. . . Of course it might be easier to use the JB3 . . .

Sloan

Cooker · « **Reply #3 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:11:04 PM »

network cable? how do you usually get data from one PC to the other?? are they both on the internet?

sleepypedro · « **Reply #4 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:11:56 PM »

ummmm, i know we're all audio enthusiasts here, but ... keep it simple and use the TCP/IP stack.

put a cat 5 crossover cable between the two PCs... either set up file sharing, or an FTP daemon. let it rip.

(or set up a torrent tracker on one machine, set up a torrent. or take out the hard drive from device #1, mount it in device #2. or use winzip to split it into a million and one 1.44 mb chunks and hoist it over via floppy)

many, many, many ways to skin this particular cat.

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #5 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:13:47 PM »

i'd say network or use the jb3.

Chanher · « **Reply #6 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:25:06 PM »

I do have high speed internet in the house but I removed all firewall, virus-protection, browsing, spyware, and EVERYTHING else related to the internet on these two units, I don't want these exposed to the net.

If I use a cat 5 crossover (which I understand to be the same type of cable used to hook a cable modem to a pc) will I just use the windows networking wizard so the computers recognize each other?

If I can't get that to work I'll just go jb3, which brings me to my next question: I have notmad on my DAW but nothing on my recording pc. do I need to put notmad on the recording pc?

If it sounds like I don't know what I'm talking about it's because, well, I don't.

+t's

sleepypedro · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:51:06 PM »

crossover cable is not the same kind of cable that goes from cable modem to PC.

crossover cable only works from PC > PC.

and no, in my scenario these two PCs won't be left vulnerable to attacks.

MarkyMark · « **Reply #8 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:52:08 PM »

Quote from: Chanher on September 11, 2004, 04:25:06 PM

I do have high speed internet in the house but I removed all firewall, virus-protection, browsing, spyware, and EVERYTHING else related to the internet on these two units, I don't want these exposed to the net.

If I use a cat 5 crossover (which I understand to be the same type of cable used to hook a cable modem to a pc) will I just use the windows networking wizard so the computers recognize each other?

If I can't get that to work I'll just go jb3, which brings me to my next question: I have notmad on my DAW but nothing on my recording pc. do I need to put notmad on the recording pc?

If it sounds like I don't know what I'm talking about it's because, well, I don't.

+t's

A crossover cable is not the same as a regular ethernet cable you connect your cable modem to your computer. The wiring is different. If you have no router the easiest way is to connect both computers with a crossover cable and log into whichever machine via My Network Places. Or you can get USB cables that connect two computers, although I don't have any experience with that.

Chairman · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:56:02 PM »

Forgot about the home network option. If all PC's are running XP or 98SE and they are connected via home network, allow file sharing and copy it straight over. Then again, it's been about an hour since your first post and the JB3 bridge woulda been done by now.

For future transfers, set up the home network, use the XP wizard and share the files. Fastest and simplest way.

Chanher · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2004, 04:58:30 PM »

Quote from: Chairman on September 11, 2004, 04:56:02 PM

Forgot about the home network option. If all PC's are running XP or 98SE and they are connected via home network, allow file sharing and copy it straight over. Then again, it's been about an hour since your first post and the JB3 bridge woulda been done by now.

For future transfers, set up the home network, use the XP wizard and share the files. Fastest and simplest way.

yeah the jb3 transfer should've been done but I've been watching U.S. Open and posting some pics in the pics section. I think I'm gonna try to figure out this home networking deal...

Simp-Dawg · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2004, 05:20:50 PM »

jb3 is gonna be easiest. install notmad or the creative software on the other machine and you're ready to go.

Chanher · « **Reply #12 on:** September 11, 2004, 05:23:27 PM »

Quote from: Simp-Dawg on September 11, 2004, 05:20:50 PM

jb3 is gonna be easiest. install notmad or the creative software on the other machine and you're ready to go.

after a closer inspection it looks like that's what I'm going to do, I don't have multiple monitors at the moment anyway...

thanks a bunch everyone, I really apreciate it

Chanher · « **Reply #13 on:** September 11, 2004, 05:52:31 PM »

so many ways, so little ambition.

Cooker · « **Reply #14 on:** September 11, 2004, 06:11:02 PM »

gmail has a 10MB attachement file size limit.

unless you are using gmailfs on a linux box, possibly. still don't know the answer to that question.

Cooker · « **Reply #15 on:** September 11, 2004, 08:06:14 PM »

i dunno if that limit is per-attachment, or per-message, but it's there.

rustle · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2004, 08:09:19 PM »

Stopped reading this thread after Cooker, and sleepypedros first post.
Cooker was on it with the network cable, and sleepypedro brought it home with the "cat 5 cross over cable".
+T to both

"Ad Hoc Network"

Chanher · « **Reply #17 on:** May 08, 2005, 05:06:57 PM »

I asked this question a while ago and have been using the lappy > jb3 > DAW method for quite a while. It is annoying as shit, the firewire on my jb3 crapped out, making the transfer ever so slow. So after making the cat 5 crossover cable according to these instructions:

http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/cat5_cables_.htm (scroll down)

I hooked up my lappy straight to my DAW. I spent the last hour messing with the Microsoft Network Wizard or whatever, and it only led to frustration and swear words. INTERNET IS STILL NOT AN OPTION, so if anyone could offer any help with setting up this connection between two computers, I would appreciate it.

Diggin · « **Reply #18 on:** May 08, 2005, 05:22:18 PM »

what I do is use a crossover cable and map a drive on one of the computers

Computer A has the files
Comptuer B needs the files

after conenction crossover cable:
A - 169.x.x.1
B - 169.x.x.2

map a network drive to A using B
Start > Run > \\169.x.x.1\c$ (or whatever drive it is on if both are xp)
or - Right click My Computer > Map Network Drive > whatever letter > \\169.x.x.1\c$

hope that helps

Chanher · « **Reply #19 on:** May 11, 2005, 01:52:04 PM »

just tried this last night, I can't get it to work!!

first question: where did you get these numbers?

A - 169.x.x.1
B - 169.x.x.2

second question: after I right clicked My Computer > Map Network Drive, the drive letter "C:" was not available. Both drives are named "C:" Am I missing something?

Boy I hate computers...

MattD · « **Reply #20 on:** May 11, 2005, 02:47:52 PM »

I always thought local/crossover networks had to be of the form 192.168.x.x in order to work.

For your second question, you need to map to a currently unused drive letter.

Chanher · « **Reply #21 on:** May 11, 2005, 02:49:35 PM »

Quote from: MattD on May 11, 2005, 02:47:52 PM

I always thought local/crossover networks had to be of the form 192.168.x.x in order to work.

For your second question, you need to map to a currently unused drive letter.

just any random letter?

+t's

MattD · « **Reply #22 on:** May 11, 2005, 02:51:59 PM »

Yup. Then, you just use that drive letter to access it later. If you want to always have this mapping available, be sure to choose the option that says something like "reconnect on logon."

I usually start my remote mappings from the bottom of the alphabet, that way I can add more local drives without having to worry about skipping letters and the like.

Chanher · « **Reply #23 on:** May 11, 2005, 05:05:37 PM »

stupid question #3

Is 192.168.x.x a private IP address? Do I need to fill in numbers for the x's?

MattD · « **Reply #24 on:** May 11, 2005, 05:19:06 PM »

It is private, from what I understand. Yes, you need numbers there. Some common starting points:

192.168.0.1
192.168.1.1
192.168.0.100
192.168.1.100

and so on. I think the exact number is personal preference only, but maybe a networking guru here can explain more about why to use one set of IPs over another.

Chanher · « **Reply #25 on:** May 11, 2005, 05:21:58 PM »

thank you so much