I just bought the 20gb JB3 brand new from creative. Cant wait to get it. I used the 20% off coupon code that was posted here in the retail section. (THANKS A TON FOR THAT!!!!) I emailed them to see if they had any and they said no but linked me to sites that might have some. I called them and the guy first said that they had none...but then put me on hold and said he had one. I gave him the coupon code and it was all good and he gave me a deal on shipping so i got it for 248.00 brand new! Thanks again to everyone here for helping me make the decision to purchase this lil guy!