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Schoeps CM060
« on: September 09, 2012, 01:10:34 PM »
has anyone used these for live taping?  I read 'some' of them have a bass rolloff and were built for speech recording.

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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 02:09:52 PM »
I haven't but these mics where mainly sold under the Strasser brand for churchs (at least that is what I have picked up over the years)

Most that you see are close speach cardiod's and not good for what we do.

Here's more info:
http://www.schoepsclassics.de/1969_cm060.htm
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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 02:12:58 PM »
I see some listed as 48V Phantom capible - but you would need to contact schoeps to find out more as the above link seems to suggest this was not the case on the original versions (maybe they upgraded the design at some point or a third party performed upgrades).
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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 12:23:36 AM »
Strässer is a very long-time provider of complete P.A. installations for churches, public assembly halls, municipal buildings, etc. in Germany (www.straesser.de). I don't think that Schoeps sells microphones to them any more, but they did so for decades, and nearly all such microphones have been, logically enough, speech cardioids. Their capsules can't be converted to standard (general-purpose) cardioids, and standard cardioid capsules are no longer available for the older microphone series, so this is not a way to get the sound you want at a bargain price.

Some of the Schoeps microphones that Schoeps made for Strässer which may be said to be "compatible with" 48-Volt phantom powering, may be the model CM 90--a type of Colette-series microphone designed for 24-Volt phantom powering. You could put any Colette capsule you want onto such an amplifier, but it would require (and would attempt to draw) something like 7 mA from a 48-Volt supply (sorry, I can't find the exact number). That's more than many/most portable supplies have available, particularly when powering a pair of microphones. I suspect that the factory could set the output circuit for 12- or 48-Volt operation and sell you a new sleeve and ID ring, though, and then it would be just like a CMC 3-- or CMC 5-- amplifier.

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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2012, 10:26:47 PM »
Here's a seller in Germany elaborating on a 48V Phantom converted CM060 - 3rd party converting the mics:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/schoeps-straesser-cm060-condenser-microphone-48-volt-phantom-/330796116016

on sale is an excellent sounding schoeps cm060 labeled "straesser" converted to be 48 volt phantom power  by   microphone solutions. find out more about this mic on   schoepsclassics.de. straesser still is the number one in germany for   sound installation in churches.  this mic #6083 is in  good technical     shape. just connect it to your mixing desk that should deliver 48 volt   phantom power, not 20 or 25 volts, and you will get an excellent sound   from that microphone. the capsule is a close speech capsule that will   give outstanding results when miking close-up. the buyer will get just   the microphone, the short adapter 6-pin to xlr and the schematic for the   original schoeps powersupply plus hints how to connect to a schoeps n60   powersupply (for the schoeps cm60 tube mike. note cm60 = tube, cm060 =   transistor). cosmetics: the mic has no dents or deep scratches, the   surface of the capsule shines more than the rest of the body (which i   did not try to polish) - check the photograph.  return policy: you may return this microphone within two weeks after   receipt. in case it does not match the description i'll pay shipping.   if you do not want it for any other reason you will have to pay. 

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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2012, 12:45:32 PM »
Some of the Schoeps microphones that Schoeps made for Strässer which may be said to be "compatible with" 48-Volt phantom powering, may be the model CM 90--a type of Colette-series microphone designed for 24-Volt phantom powering. You could put any Colette capsule you want onto such an amplifier, but it would require (and would attempt to draw) something like 7 mA from a 48-Volt supply (sorry, I can't find the exact number).

I have one of these Straesser CM 90/CMC-5. It was checked and adjusted by Andreas Grosser and is compatible with 48V. It draws 7mA as you wrote. Parallel I got a mail from Schoeps telling me I can use mine (serial number provided to Schoeps - in the 2000 range) with 48V without any problems but they added to watch out for hot plugging/unplugging, better to switch off Phantom power. It works great so far.

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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2012, 07:04:05 PM »
I have one of these Straesser CM 90/CMC-5. It was checked and adjusted by Andreas Grosser and is compatible with 48V. It draws 7mA as you wrote. Parallel I got a mail from Schoeps telling me I can use mine (serial number provided to Schoeps - in the 2000 range) with 48V without any problems but they added to watch out for hot plugging/unplugging, better to switch off Phantom power. It works great so far.
You can buy a schoeps branded housing/sleeve and id ring as spare parts from Posthorn or Redding if you want to make it also look like a CMC5.
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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2012, 07:28:08 PM »
I have one of these Straesser CM 90/CMC-5. It was checked and adjusted by Andreas Grosser and is compatible with 48V. It draws 7mA as you wrote. Parallel I got a mail from Schoeps telling me I can use mine (serial number provided to Schoeps - in the 2000 range) with 48V without any problems but they added to watch out for hot plugging/unplugging, better to switch off Phantom power. It works great so far.
You can buy a schoeps branded housing/sleeve and id ring as spare parts from Posthorn or Redding if you want to make it also look like a CMC5.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't believe the id ring is available as a part. Jerry at posthorn mentioned this to me when I asked about changing a silver body to gray Nextel body.

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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2012, 08:02:55 PM »
Rings are available, the problem is the XLR which isn't sold because the serial number is engraved on it.
So my CM90 is now a nickel coloured CMC5 after ordering the parts from Jerry.
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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2012, 08:33:19 PM »
You can buy a schoeps branded housing/sleeve and id ring as spare parts from Posthorn or Redding if you want to make it also look like a CMC5.

why should I?

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Re: Schoeps CM060
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2012, 03:10:14 AM »
You can buy a schoeps branded housing/sleeve and id ring as spare parts from Posthorn or Redding if you want to make it also look like a CMC5.

why should I?
I can confirm that it doesn't sound worse with Strässer logo on it  ;)
But mine was dented and had scratches, so i decided to order a new metal sleeve.
Then i sold the high pass cardiod capsule for speech purposes which came with the mic. Someone paid over 200 euros for it @fleabay, more than i paid for the whole package and the spare parts  ;D
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