Topic: New field to explore...for me

[macacopowa]

HI video tapers, by now I am only an audio taper but yesterday I ask for recording to an organizer of festival in my city, talking always in terms of audio but he answer to me that was very interested in to record video...so what's your advice? I am planning to offer him to record aud and video an do a matrix work, with the time that implicate, I am putting in a big trouble? I have basic knowledge of video and have the chance of work with MacPro G5 and FCP.

There are what I am planning:   
Make video recording with 2-3 cams (I have 2 miniDV and one HDV), tape aud with Neuman km184>MP2>R1 and also tape from board (iriver 120)...is excessive?

I have to talk the details with the organizer but one thing make me have big    
expectations , in the email he told me:    "you tell us what you need "   

Any comment is thankful

[wilsonedits]

2-3 cams defintely isn't excessive....

[bl6216@yahoo.com]

How many stages will they have at the festival. Do you know if they are going to sale what you tape or is it just for them to keep.

-Brian

[macacopowa]

Only one stage, 4 bands playing, about 4-5 hours of music, I think that they  will like to have stuff for promotion or keep for them, is a little festival in their second edition.  For now, I managing the idea of work with two canon miniDV and one Sony HDV, the idea it's to put the hdv on a tripod and the others cams for details on stage.

[macacopowa]

It would be great for to learn if anybody have a link to a video made by other tapers, a sample it's good to see too

[hummat]

Here are some samples of stuff I've had a hand in.  Some are better than other.  In the end everything has or will end up on DVD.  I didn;t shoot everything, so I created this little space so people who have sent me tapes can view snippets of the progress. 

http://osabella.com/musicVids/tunesVidPlayer.html

I started out with a video camera, and just recently got into the audio side, because without good audio, video is useless. 

Everything was done in within the Final Cut Studio workflow, then I compressed the hell out of it for managable Flash videos (.flv) for the web.

[macacopowa]

thanks!!! I will watch them 
+T

[macacopowa]

HI all, finally I will do the project, talking to the organizers all it's ok. I explained that I am thinking about 3 cams (2 near the stage, one rear) and matrix the AUD (km184) with SBD and they are fine with it. Also another guy that they know, will record with 2 cams, are hdv, mine only are minidv. Exist any problem at time of mixe the sources minidv with hdv?

[hummat]

You will want to downgrade the hdv footage to standard definition to match your sd footage.  Which for right now id fine because ther isn;t really a way to author HDDVD or Blu-Ray yet.  I think some editing software may not be able to handle the HD footage, but I could be wrong.  I know that Final Cut is supposed to play nice with HDV, but since I don;t have the gear I can't speak to how well it does with it.

There may be a substantial difference in quality between the HD and SD footage, then again there may not, but you won;t know that until everything is shot.  At that point, the art of getting to 2 in the same ballpark begins!

[cleantone]

There may be a substantial difference in quality between the HD and SD footage, then again there may not, but you won;t know that until everything is shot.  At that point, the art of getting to 2 in the same ballpark begins!

That is going to be an issue. You most likely will see a significant difference when cutting from one to another. That is not to say this wont work. I have seen professional products where you notice a quality difference form one shot to another. Lots of stand up stuff ends up like that for soem reason. Not the huge productions but medium stuff. Technically it is possible to manipulate footage to match more closely. Color correction is normally applied to every shot in TV/Film production. This is not a luxury you will have though of course. But you should be able to make a great product without it. Without using a really high end post setup and without working with a seasoned pro there is only so much to be done. Not that I know all that much about it though. I did work on a TV series and would watch the colorist and editors work from time to time. These are real pro's mind you. The tools they had were rediculously powerful.

[macacopowa]

Yesterday I talked with the other guy, who know the organizers and work with video, and said to me that it's better put the worst camera for the large footage, from tripod...these man knows how to work? I read on TS that it's better put the best camera for the general footage!

The organizers are obsessed  with the sound, because the past year the video was ruined by it. And said to me to connect direct the outs of SDB to the cam of large footage...if I am planning to mix my AUD with SBD, I need to connect directly the out of the board to the cam?

[macacopowa]

Well, finally recorded all the festival, now the hard job! jejeje Multicam on FCP, thanks all for your advices

[hummat]

multicam in FCP got a lot easier and a lot more fun with FCP 5.  The mutli-angle feature is awesome.

[macacopowa]

I am stopped at sync issue, I put the three videos on my project and mark a point for to sync, but when I select multiclip > I can't sync with those marks, only let me to sync with point in, point out or timecode. I try to mark point in in each video but after mark the poin in, the video moves along the time line. Any light that show me the way?

Thanks in advance

[hummat]

OK. Let me tell you what has worked for me, and this may be the absolute wrong way to do it, but like I said, it works for me.

I had a show that was shot with a few different cameras/angles.  Without even takng the new multi-angle feature into account, I set out like I would have any other multi-cam project.  I opened a new sequence and synced up all of my sources. 

Now for the multiangle.  Like you mentioned it can line-up via in/out/or timecode.  Well,  like you, none of those options were open to me.  What I did was to cut all clips at the end of the shortest one.  Say cam 1 ends a few minutes before cam2, drag the end of cam 2 to be evn with the end of cam 1.  So that in my sequence they all have the same end point.  Then click each clip in the sequence and make it a sub clip.  (I forget what menu that is in, it may even be a right click option).  Then repeat for the other clip(s). 

Now back to the bin.  Instead of selected the original captuered clips, select the sub clip variations and make multiclip out of those, lining up by the out points. 

Create a new sequence, drop your multiclip in, double click it to open in the viewer, set the view/canvas relationship to open | |, and start editing.  In terms of cutting and switching, take a look at the manual.

Now you may be asking what to do with the footage you trimmed off of the original captured clips.  You can apply the same logic, and just butt one multiclip up tp another.

Hope this helps, but I’m not a very good teacher, so if you have questions, or I just didn’t make any sense, let me know.

-Jay

[macacopowa]

Thanks, Jay withe this method I can start the multiclip edition 

[macacopowa]

Thanks for all people that gave me advices, finally the project was done, well, partially  , one of the three concerts is finished, here a sample
-->http://www.vimeo.com/315206