Topic: ADk Tls or Akg 481s

[caymanreview]

i always wondered if i could adjust from 480s to TL's and i think it was waaay easier than i thought before i got the TL's

i have a tape im getting ready to BT on the local tracker here (used to be taperssection tracker and is now tapetracker or something???) but it is fully unplugged acoustic old-school bluegrass,a dn it is fantastic!

i tape alot of local bluegrass that doesnt get spread around, by request of the performers

having 4 p[atterns is irreplaceable, i have found it to be the best thing about the move.

the bass responce on the TL's seems to be great to me, and to tell you the truth, 9 out of 10 tapes with TL's or 480s i would prefer the TL's myself, but that is personal preferance

you could compare mine and beans sources from alpine phish this year, but i had TL > wmod 410 and he had 480 v3. i have a few TL > v3 tapes now though that im running a v3 as well

[caymanreview]

the way i carry mine:

i have a lowepro commercial aw, think nova 5 on steroids

it has 2 really big pockets on the edges that fit the shocks perfectly, and i made 2 small compartments inside i carry the mics in, wrapped in crown royal bags, with the screens on them

edit: for spelling

[nic]

yeah, I used a Nova 5 and had no problems carrying TLs, V2, 2*6vSLA, SBM, M1, shocks, cables, etc...

get a camera bag that is made to hold the big lenses...the lens compartments are pretty much the exact same size as a TL w/ windscreen

[caymanreview]

i think the nova 5 would be big enough, but i dont want to have to cram my gear into a bag. i want to be able to carry extra stuff if need be, so i have the nova commercial

i ahve plenty of room for TL's and shocks/screens > clamps x2 > V3 > hosa odl312 > jb3 and all the cables except my zoalla's dont fit in my bag, they are Bulky!

[Kindguy]

I've owned TL's & the 480's.

480's are way more versatile. Size & sound. Don't get me wrong I like the way the TL's sound. But stuck in the section in a large venue & the 480's will pull a better tape every time.

I loved the TL's when I could tape up close with local bands.

The TL's have the polar pattern option which is nice. But you'll end up using the cards the most. I did.

480's are a much smaller package & easier to carry around.

That said you can see where I'd lean. With the 480's

But like Todd said you can't go wrong either way.

[barrettphisher]

carrying more stuff around your bag=bigger muscles, chicks dig guys with ld mics and big muscles....Besides TL's rock...great mic to have to tape anywhere...I run TL's>V3 and love the results...
Barrett

[Gordon]

joel has lots of 483 > ua5 > jb3 shows up on the archive if you want to hear how that combo is.  oh and I'd go with the 480's   

[caymanreview]

I run TL's>V3 and love the results...
Barrett

same here, ive only had it out to a few shows, but im liking the TL > v3 combo!

[T.J.]

Well i got a decision in front of me...
Tls or Akg.  The akg is $100 more, but comes with some extras (like a special case).  Hmmm what to do?  Any advice?

i'm still window shopping and was wondering where you were looking online to purchase both the TL's and the 481's. I found a couple good prices, but I think I can find them a little bit cheaper.

thanks,
  t.j.

[Massive Dynamic]

i tried to find a good comparison on archive.org.  I couldn't find one exactly right.  But the bass response seemed greater in the TLs.  When the word clarity is used, would that be like the snap on a mandolin?  I really want to tape some bluegrass stuff.
Also the switchable patterns are influencing me to tdk
my only hang up is, how the crap am i going to carry these monsters?
Would there be any sense in running a 3 mic matrix, with a small dia mic?

seems to me you'll have to carry shock mounts and mics and cables regardless of which mics you get- except the TL's are bigger, so their case will be bigger.

Bean's point is why I think a p-mod might be better with the TL's than a w-mod, but I've never heard the TL-pmod combo, so this is really nothing more than speculation based on wanna-be logic.

I have a couple of comp discs (audio CDR) from Craig T using the TL > wmod UA-5 for one set and TL > pmod UA-5 for the other.  Show is Will Bernard and Motherbug (jazz), but I don't have show date handy.  I'll send copies to anyone who's interested.

I've also taped a few shows myself using the TL (XY 90°) > pmod UA-5 combo (all DFC, FOB on stand).  No bluegrass, but I do have some folk (female singer-songwriter acoustic guitar), folk-pop (acoustic guitar, electric piano), folk-rock (full band), and full-tilt modern rock.  pm me if you're interested in hearing any samples; can only do audio CDR or DAT.

[F.O.Bean]

Well i got a decision in front of me...
Tls or Akg.  The akg is $100 more, but comes with some extras (like a special case).  Hmmm what to do?  Any advice?

i'm still window shopping and was wondering where you were looking online to purchase both the TL's and the 481's. I found a couple good prices, but I think I can find them a little bit cheaper.

thanks,
  t.j.

j, pm me, i know who has the best prices at the moment

[Swampy]

TLs, you get the flexablitliy of the patterns. But The AKGs you get the small size and IMO the better sound. I ran 391s before I got the TLs. I love having the switchable patterns, but I really thought the 391s sounded better, so Im sure that the 480s sound even better than them! ADKs are definitely more bright, as the AKGs were a fuller sound that I prefered... my .02...

[timP]

I missed alot of the bass I heard live in my recordings with 391s...

not at all the case with my TLs

Alex, can you describe in a little more detail what you prefered from yr 391s?

[Swampy]

See, for me it was the exact other way. I thought that my 391 tapes were a lot fuller with a more bass. My TLs just kind of sound ehhh. A lot of people might like the sound better, but I just really liked the coloration of the 391s better. YMMV...

[F.O.Bean]

yeah alex, thats cause akg's rule yer face